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To: Jeff Mizer who wrote (896)	9/13/1999 3:40:00 PM
From: James F. Hopkins	Respond to of 1449

Jeff; Back in 93 I wrote Reno and told her don't let the FBI run the suicide angle, it can't be proven and it wont wash. At best they should pass it off as an accident, a lamp tuned over or something. Even if she was convinced of suicide, she had to know she couldn't prove it, which left me saying well they are either real stupid or they are obsessed with this because they set the fire themself. The latter part is looking to be more true than the suicide part. ------------- Is it their guilty conscious pushing them to try to push suicide ? On top of that Sage ( i think it was him ) anyway he had it all rehearsed and started the spin to soon, he was saying "they are burning themselves up" even when they still could have had a chance to escape, "did he already know most of them had been taken down" ? It was a big mistake him getting on camera like he did. ----------------- I've know several suicides in my life, and it's customary when possible to pass them off as accidents, "he was cleaning the gun" so what if it's not true, for the sake of the family a "white lie" is customary unless there is a good reason to reveal the truth in such matters, other wise let suicides run off as accidents. They know this so what's their "good reason" Mark Twain did a short story about the truth one time, and strongly recommended a person first lean how to lie, before they feel they have a handle on the truth. ( I take it he meant how to tell the differences in a "harmless" or charitable "white lie" from a vicious and despicable black one. --------------- I will never buy into the Davidians committing suiside, Reno and company may as well let that go , if they don't they make things worse. What wisdom can you find that is greater than kindness ? :Jean-Jacques Rousseau Jim

To: Jeff Mizer who wrote (896)	9/15/1999 6:56:00 PM
From: Machaon	Respond to of 1449

<< Considering the people making these ridiculous claims would still be spouting clinton's innocence if not for a stained dress-- >> There were probably many stained dresses at the Koresh compound, except they were children's dresses. But, you won't believe this because you probably feel that Koresh WAS Jesus. <g> << ... we can expect nothing but lies, lies and more lies. >> Good grief. Minor, insignificant oversights, and you are making a huge deal over it. Where is your sense of proportion? << I would never believe they set themselves on fire or shot themselves-- >> You probably don't believe that the bunch of nuts chasing that comet killed themselves, or the nuts at Jonestown killed themselves. Why do you have so much confidence in child molesting, weapon hoarding, extremists, and self appointed Jesus Christs? Would you prefer these types as your leaders?