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To: Neocon who wrote (60019)9/13/1999 4:11:00 PM
From: Tom Clarke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
The War to Stop Northern Arrogance was written with tongue in cheek. The book by Horwitz came out last year and has received much praise. Chapter 5 appeared in the New Yorker. He doesn't apologize for either side, he just examines why so many Southerners still feel as they do about the war, and why remembering the war is so ingrained in the culture. He hangs out with re-enactors and visits various battlefields and Confederate shrines and monuments. It is at times LOL funny, other times quite poignant. A terrific read.



To: Neocon who wrote (60019)9/13/1999 4:23:00 PM
From: Tom Clarke  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
Thanks for posting Calhoun. We could use more stern logic like his on these threads. Calhoun and John Randolph do not get enough recognition as the great American statesmen they were.

I don't want to get into a tit for tat on whether or not the South had the legal right (the Constitution says they did) to secede, or was it about slavery, taxes, autonomy, etc. Although it is interesting that the Emancipation Proclamation wasn't enacted until 2 years in, with 5 northern territories remaining slave holding territory. No need to hash all that out here. No doubt that the war was our Iliad, and we are stuck with the consequences.



To: Neocon who wrote (60019)9/13/1999 4:26:00 PM
From: DMaA  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
In you opinion, is there any circumstance under which a state can legally secede from the union?