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Politics : Evolution -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Tunica Albuginea who wrote (588)9/16/1999 7:33:00 AM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
Thermodynamics.
But we'll skip that for now so as not to bore the audience.


Or are you skipping because you were caught in a deliberate lie and if you really believe in heaven and alternatives, your toes must be feeling warm in anticipation.

Now you got me totally confused. It's your nature.

TP



To: Tunica Albuginea who wrote (588)9/16/1999 7:37:00 AM
From: TigerPaw  Respond to of 69300
 
Ok where do we start:
The obvious place to start is the present. See what is available today to explain why the present is as it is. If you want to start with the big bang then youre going to have to put the finishing touches of superstring theory to jump start the conversation.
TP



To: Tunica Albuginea who wrote (588)9/16/1999 10:11:00 AM
From: Zirdu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300
 
<Evolution means that things spontaneously happen without a Higher Power guiding the process. Correct?>

Thre is nothing magical or spontaneous about evolution. It is a very matter of fact process. One little gene change after another, built up over many many generations, gradually makes a different creature from what lived many millions of years before.

<where and when and how did the first living being appear?.>

Good question. Evolution itself says nothing about this. Evolution says what happens to living creatures, populations, and species, after the first living and reproducing thing is in existence. The origin of life is a different problem. And a very difficult one. No one knows the answer to that question. Maybe we will never know, though I believe that even this problem will one day find a scientific solution. There are a lot of "theories" for this one, but no consensus of opinion among scientists or anyone else.



To: Tunica Albuginea who wrote (588)9/16/1999 6:59:00 PM
From: Ralphd2  Respond to of 69300
 
"So, where did matter come from? It must have been there forever? Correct?
Thus matter was never " created"? It always existed . Right?
( my 16 year old is going to look cross eyed when I tell him that )."

before the "big bang" or whatever beginning theory you have subscribed to, "time and space" did not exsist.
so matter has been around since the beginning of time...

the laws of thermodynamics are confined to the time/space continnuium. they rely on observed changes in a closed system over time. without cause and effect, time has no meaning. or maybe that's backwards. without time, there can be no effects of causes.
of course, in QM, causes are often the effects of the observation preformed. which goes along supporting the view that HUMAN THOUGHT is a proactive force in the universe. or at least a very acive force. now monkeys and other relatives aside, the kansas school board is trying to mold the thoughts of the young, formative minds in it's power. they have stated thier preference for dogmatic theory over that of inquisitiveness, critical thinking, and scientific theory.