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To: Krowbar who wrote (2940)9/17/1999 4:24:00 PM
From: Nate  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6418
 
to be honest with you i believe that there was an ark built and 2 males and 2 females of each clean animal were put aboard and 7 male and 7 female of the unclean animals were aboard. i believe God told noah of the flood, and that santa claus is a myth.



To: Krowbar who wrote (2940)9/17/1999 4:32:00 PM
From: Null Dog Ago  Respond to of 6418
 
I don't know what planet you came from, Delbert, but the santa comment is definitely not a friendly one. I do believe you jumped in to support Michelle when she insisted on getting an argument going on the abortion issue. Everything you said has had a cruel bite to it. Like I said, you make a good spin doctor.



To: Krowbar who wrote (2940)9/17/1999 4:39:00 PM
From: Null Dog Ago  Respond to of 6418
 
I tell you what, Delbert. If I have nothing better to do tonight I will find every post you've made to me, as well as the ones Michelle made, since you supported her, explain to you how they could easily be construed as insulting since you don't seem to be sensitive enough (and you're a liberal? Hmmm... I shudder to think that possible <sarcastic snicker>) to realize that you are being insulting.
Ofcourse that could be because you have mistaken your insults for intelligence, I really can't say.
But now that's only if I have nothing better to do, ofcourse.



To: Krowbar who wrote (2940)9/17/1999 10:03:00 PM
From: Null Dog Ago  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6418
 
Ok, Delbert, since you are so deeply taken in by your own twisting of words, I will have to point out to you just how offensively insulting you are.

I believe it all began one day when you were trashing someone with faith using the theory of evolution as a means to TELL this person there is no God. I interjected saying it was just a theory. You then called those who had faith in God cowards who would never have an open debate between the bible and evolution. Since religion is a belief, I contended evidence was hard to come by. At this point you were heavy handed but not completely rude, by the way. My comment was that it's not easy to disprove God because religion is based on faith, whereas in the field of science, something that seems very probable can be blown out of the water by a new discovery or missing links in the theory, thus a theory, even evolution, has the possibility of being disproved. To quote myself:
The big problem with that debate is this: religion is based on faith, not proof. Therefore it cannot be disproved. Evolution could technically be disproved since it is based on evidence of the theory, even though as yet there is no evidence to disprove it.
I'm sorry, but is that inflammatory speech? Sure doesn't seem like it to me...

Here is how you responded:
I thought you would find a reason for such a debate not to occur. You don't trust the people listening to be as smart as you are?

Where that came from, I don't know, I never questioned your intelligence with anything I had said. That's an aggressive jump to a conclusion there. Moreover, are you saying you have hard evidence that there is no God? I guess you are, but if so, that's a foolish claim to make as it cannot be backed up.

However, you hounded me for proof, so I offered a few tidbits, as follows:
There actually has been evidence of the ark found. And the tomb, for that matter. Debate away. I don't care, I just don't feel like wasting the time on it. Even if the Bible is wrong (could be, scholars say parts of it, e.g. the book of revelation, were written in code during the time when Christians were being persecuted, many more contend the bible contains many parables not meant to be taken literally but instead as moral guidelines) a faith is still characterized by belief in spite of lack of proof. So, how can you disprove something which is not based on proof?
Evolution has evidence to support it as a theory, but nothing that makes it fool proof (don't take offense to that cliche).
Now that I've explained what I meant, can I please go to bed? Thank you. =)

Boy, now that was a harsh response. I was really being mean there, wasn't I?

However, despite my innocent little post, you come back with a sarcastic one attacking the findings at Mt. Ararat, adding in your little dialogue a rather rude and insulting categorization:

All that I would require is that a non-crackpot, non-fundamentalist

Not very nice, Delly. And you aren't too long to follow that up with this:

Do you really belive that every animal on Earth was on that ark in pairs? Kangaroos, koala bears, panda bears, polar bears, llamas, alligators, etc. If so, you probably believe in Santa Claus too.

If so you probably believe in santa claus too? This was the final insult, I had decided it was best to just ignore you, as I knew nothing good could come out of any further association between us. But would you let it go? Ofcourse not. You make another attack on me, after I had decided not to continue with you, ending that particular tirade with this:

You only have blind belief.

Does that sound very friendly to you? How about everyone else on this thread? It's an open forum, after all...

Oh, and your continual characterization of conservatives as
the wrong wing
isn't an antagonistic tactic either, is it? Go ahead, Delly, keep deluding yourself and twisting things like a good little spin doctor.

As for the abortion thing, here's what your good friend Michelle Harris had to say:

I don't expect to ever hear any of these right wingers agree that a woman has a right to control her own body... I would like them to acknowledge that it is control they are after and not some philosophical respect for "life"

Ever think maybe some of us have a real respect for life? I find it VERY insulting to be accused of wanting to control someone. Sure, you weren't the one to start this argument with me, but I figure since you consider me guilty by association, I should do the same.
Oh, by the way, she was the one who openly called to start an abortion argument, and more than once, since there were no takers the first time. Seems like you guys go out of your way to pick fights to me.

Now please reflect on this, and leave me alone. As I told you, first impressions count. You made a bad one, and every impression thereafter was worse. Thus why I find your banter idiotic and antagonistic.