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To: Rambi who wrote (38167)9/18/1999 12:18:00 PM
From: Ish  Respond to of 71178
 
<<He is a relatively young man-just turned 44- >>

So you robbed the cradle, eh?

<<Well, of course, right now, mine might read- She never bought a winning stock.>>

Cyto closed at 2 1/8. Now where to from here? Bwhaha

<<ANd already there are several out on the pool house goofing around-- I really can't imagine when that is no more.>>

Yes you can. You'll buy some real stupid looking shorts outfits and sit around the bar in a country club talking about the golf game you should be playing.



To: Rambi who wrote (38167)9/18/1999 12:27:00 PM
From: greenspirit  Respond to of 71178
 
Wonderful thought provoking post Penni, Being in the throws of toddlerhood I can't say I've experienced this emotion yet, but I can well imagine I will one day soon and it will be quite an eye opener.

It makes me think about my neighbors, new ones who just built their retirement home across the street. They seem to spend enormous effort and time pruning their yard and keeping it perfect. And they sort of complain in a nice way about my kids toys scattered about, my junk suburu that sits idle in my driveway and about a bunch of other small things which seem silly to me. Both couples in their early 50's with grown children. I can't help but mutter "get a life" under my breath when they focus on such things.

I can tell you about my parents also. My stepfather and mother retired to Florida in their early 50's. After travelling, they went back to work in about 2 years. My stepfather loved working at a nursery making practically nothing just so he could chat and advise people. He said he enjoyed it. But then new management started treating him like a minimum wage worker, so he quit. I bet they lost a lot of customers, because of the friendly lost-in-time way about him. My mother went back to college, got her degree and decided to start a transcriptionist service. That lasted about 3 years. Now she wants to be a property manager.

I look fondly on the old days when parents and grandparents lived under the same roof till very old. We miss a lot as a society without this generational continuity I think. So much wisdom seems to go wasted in trailor parks and housing developments in Florida. My parents are now well into their late 60's and they feel torn between working, because social security does some really lame things if you make too much money, and not. What a dumb law to punish people for working into old age. I'm greatful they are still in excellent health and come visit at least once a year.

I wish I had answers or real advise. But I don't, just some ramblings.

Michael



To: Rambi who wrote (38167)9/18/1999 1:54:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
I woke up sad this morning because of my dreams last night. I think what is making me sad is sort of the same thing that is making you sad, but from a different direction. It's a combination of loneliness and boredom, alienation, isolation. Stuff like that. We are here for each other, and thank goodness, I don't know what I'd do without you guys. I wish I had people like you in 3-D.

But of course, the people I meet in 3-D aren't as interesting (well, how would I know, I don't ever talk to them on an intimate basis). And they all have problems (as do we all, but not in cyberspace, our problems are back in the 3-D world). And it's so much trouble to get together at a time and place that works for everyone (whereas here, it's easy, just log on).

My first set of dreams were about my mother. I know she is lonelier than I am. All she's got for emotional support are the children, and the dog. I didn't even call her to see how she made out during the hurricane. It didn't even cross my mind. I feel very guilty because she gets on my nerves whenever I am around her. I resolve to be nicer to her in the future. At least my mother and father are both alive, I know I'll feel much lonelier when they die.

My second set of dreams were about my old friend, Brian. It makes me very sad that we can't be friends, anymore. We were very close, and spent a lot of time together, talking about everything under the sun, arguing about everything under the sun. We both love to argue, and could be very rude and even outrageous to each other without getting mad. A lot of the things that I say that make people here mad are things that would have made him laugh, and he gave as good as he got. I hope someday I meet other people like him. He was my work-out buddy, he was my lunch buddy, he was the mentor I turned to when I needed career advice. I put a lot of eggs into one basket, instead of developing and maintaining relationships with other people. And I know that he really wasn't emotionally close to anyone else, except his wife and his brother. Men tend to be like that, even more than women. A lot of buddies, but few friends.

I don't want to be like my mother, and my father, both so lonely. I didn't make friends in college because I was working full-time, and I didn't make friends in law school because I was working, and having children. I've always been running as fast as I could just to stay in one place.

So my resolution is to get out, do things I've never done, go back to doing things I used to do, meet people, and make friends in 3-D. For example, I just realized yesterday that all three women judges on the Fairfax Circuit Court bench are women I was friendly with when I was an active member of the Virginia Women Attorney's Association. So that's a good place to start. And there's a big election next year, I could get involved in that. Maybe join the League of Women Voters.

Anyway, you have created, and help maintain, a place for us to be friends, and that's very important. Thank you.



To: Rambi who wrote (38167)9/18/1999 10:04:00 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
I've been thinking on and off today about your post. And it reminded me of a seminar I once attended where Stephen Covey was the speaker. He asked the audience to close their eyes and clear their mind. Then asked them to visualize their funeral. Slowly he went through the visualization of seeing your family and friends there. Now ask yourself, what would you like them to be saying about you?

Now work your life back from this, and do the things today which would create this vision.

I believe there is some real value in that message.

Michael