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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (72320)	9/19/1999 2:07:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572600

Cirrus - <Shouldn't they have people who check data (/information or whatever it is), and people who re-check the data, and people who re-re-recheck the data? Whoever's fault it was, it shouldn't have happened because that engineer, or group of engineers cost AMD about hundreds of millions of dollars and its shareholders at least 10X that much. But I guess those guys don't care enough because they "allowed" AMD to have more problems in Q4 of '98, which again cost AMD hundreds of millions of dollars and its shareholders at least 10X that much. I hope AMD doesn't have the same people running the Dresden ramp-up, or anything Athlon related.> LOL!!! You have just gleaned what would seem to be unthinkable; that one lousy engineer's decisions can cost a company 100's of millions of dollars. Amazing, isn't it?!? And you wonder why I'm tense some days :-). In all seriousness, some poor module schmuck's decisions should be ratified by upper levels of engineering. Sometimes a whole team misses something. These things do happen. Hopefully not very often. I do think there is more to the story than what Chevyman implies. 6 months to figure out a process chemical mix is "eating" up interconnects seems a bit long. <AMD had several tool sets that failed to perform as designed and one set of tools that was contaminating an entire area> This suggests too aggressive of development schedule to me, at best. At worst, it would be something on the order of sloppy development work. I stress I am purely commenting from the outside, and without malice of intent. I do not know any of the details relative to this guy's posts. They do make for some interesting reading though. PB

To: Cirruslvr who wrote (72320)	9/19/1999 12:29:00 PM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 1572600

Re: Shouldn't they have people who check data... That information is very sketchy, but maybe we now have some information on what happened to Atiq Raz. Maybe this is the kind of problem he was solving, or it could be that his elevation to manufacturing management sainthood was a little premature. Dan