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To: Dan3 who wrote (72342)	9/19/1999 11:40:00 PM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 1572515

dan3 - <Thanks for your reply. From what you wrote, it sounds as though it may not be an option, maybe AMD needs copper at .18 due to characteristics of their design. > Hard to say. As an armchair quarterback, I would have taken a crack at the ILD vs. Al gapfill issue from an engineering standpoint, but a lot of speculation on my part is involved with this assessment. <Don't know if the above makes any sense at all, I sure don't know how these things are designed and manufactured. :-)> Makes sense. PB

To: Dan3 who wrote (72342)	9/20/1999 3:37:00 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 1572515

Hi Dan3; Re Athlon and .18u I took a spin through their data sheets &c. the other night, and they mentioned that the design was intended to be a .18u design. The biggest thing I noticed that would support that is the power consumption. 42 amps at 1.6 volts would look a lot nicer at the smaller feature size... Of course I have to buy AMD right before the GTW announcement... -- Carl P.S. I've been too busy to look at your calc yet, but I have printed it out and will carry it around with me today. If I'm not totally exhausted tonight, I'll post some sort of analysis. By the way, have the RMBS bulls admitted to the error(s) of their ways with regard to RDRAM power consumption? Or do I need to revisit it? A useful thing to do would be to collect up links to all the various comments, and counter comments, before the mist of time makes it all go away. I don't think they're going to volunteer, so one of us has to do it. I don't think I could do it without getting excessively sarcastic. (In my regular line of work I get a lot more respect than on SI...) The significant thing, I think, is that RMBS touted a feature, low power consumption, that their technology does not have. That should put pause to people inclined to believe everything that comes out of that little hype house.