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To: J-14 who wrote (30)	9/20/1999 6:13:00 PM
From: gregor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 4775

let me know anytime you feel I overstep the boundaries of your thread. met him? you may "know" President Clinton but would he receive your personal call at the White House ? you may "know about" him but is it personal or just what you have heard ? you may have viewed and admired The Potato Eaters in the Richt but is that knowledge of a personal relationship with van Gogh ? there is an 'informal formality' that one must accept to have eternal life , it is called 'getting saved'.

To: J-14 who wrote (30)	9/21/1999 9:37:00 AM
From: monu	Respond to of 4775

I do not know Shalom or Gregor personally. The first time I'll probably meet either one will be in heaven. Then I'll say, "Hey, you were that guy..." (smile) And yes God has a sense of humor. Just read the account of Elijah and his dealings with the prophets of Baal.

To: J-14 who wrote (30)	9/22/1999 12:38:00 AM
From: O'Hara	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4775

><>...Good evening my friend J-14...><> No I do not know monu personally. As a matter of fact this thread is the first I've seen of his writings. I was impressed with his post and said so. I am also very impressed with this thread and it's author. Although I have only begun to be acquainted with your writings, I discern that you are a very pensive and innocently-sincere individual who has a deep understanding of and appreciation for our heavenly Father and the things of His world. I admire that. I believe that this thread will be a blessing and a tribute to His most favored Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, and I am glad to be a part of it. May God bless and keep you and your family. Shalom...><> The following is for your reading pleasure. SEEK a suitable time for leisure and meditate often on the favors of God. Leave curiosities alone. Read such matters as bring sorrow to the heart rather than occupation to the mind. If you withdraw yourself from unnecessary talking and idle running about, from listening to gossip and rumors, you will find enough time that is suitable for holy meditation. Very many great saints avoided the company of men wherever possible and chose to serve God in retirement. ?As often as I have been among men,? said one writer, ?I have returned less a man.? We often find this to be true when we take part in long conversations. It is easier to be silent altogether than not to speak too much. To stay at home is easier than to be sufficiently on guard while away. Anyone, then, who aims to live the inner and spiritual life must go apart, with Jesus, from the crowd. No man appears in safety before the public eye unless he first relishes obscurity. No man is safe in speaking unless he loves to be silent. No man rules safely unless he is willing to be ruled. No man commands safely unless he has learned well how to obey. No man rejoices safely unless he has within him the testimony of a good conscience. More than this, the security of the saints was always enveloped in the fear of God, nor were they less cautious and humble because they were conspicuous for great virtues and graces. The security of the wicked, on the contrary, springs from pride and presumption, and will end in their own deception. Never promise yourself security in this life, even though you seem to be a good religious, or a devout hermit. It happens very often that those whom men esteem highly are more seriously endangered by their own excessive confidence. Hence, for many it is better not to be too free from temptations, but often to be tried lest they become too secure, too filled with pride, or even too eager to fall back upon external comforts. If only a man would never seek passing joys or entangle himself with worldly affairs, what a good conscience he would have. What great peace and tranquillity would be his, if he cut himself off from all empty care and thought only of things divine, things helpful to his soul, and put all his trust in God. Thomas A Kempis, .