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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (27061)9/20/1999 8:07:00 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Respond to of 39621
 
Gimme a break! You're citing the "Church Fathers" as authorities?
So which one of them was a contemporary of Jesus?

So you're citing quoters of quoters as authoritative? Ever hear of hearsay evidence?

The FACT that you CANNOT cite any contemporary source of Jesus' ministry is better evidence of my point than anything I can say.

This is like citing The Iliad as reliable history of the Trojan War. The story of that conflict was also passed along orally for many years before being written down. So do you believe in Zeus?



To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (27061)9/22/1999 11:19:00 AM
From: Machaon  Respond to of 39621
 
<< But He who raised Him up from the dead will raise up us also, if we do His will, and walk in His commandments, and love what He loved, keeping ourselves from all unrighteousness, covetousness, love of money, evil
speaking, false witness; "not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing," or blow for blow, or cursing for cursing, ...
>>

If this is from God then, in order to get into Heaven you MUST do the following:

- walk in His commandments

- love what He loved

- keeping ourselves from all unrighteousness

- keeping ourselves from all covetousness

- keeping ourselves from all love of money

- keeping ourselves from all evil speaking

- keeping ourselves from all false witness

- not rendering evil for evil

- not rendering railing for railing

- not rendering blow for blow

- not rendering cursing for cursing

If these ARE the words and rules of God, and you Emile, violate any of these rules at any time, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

If you'd like, let's go over each one, rule by rule, and see how many you have violated. <g>