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To: Bill Jackson who wrote (88587)	9/21/1999 4:43:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Bill and Paul, <So it is a rare fab that does all types of circuits.> Intel's Fab 15 here in Aloha, Oregon, does both flash and logic. Or perhaps I misunderstood you here. Tenchusatsu

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (88587)	9/21/1999 4:52:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Jackson - Re: ". However is it faster to start a new flash fab or add equipment to a 90,000 foot clean room that is 15% filled?" Clearly it is faster to add equipment to an existing facility. BUT THINK ! Equipment is only PART OF THE ISSUE. PROCESS is the other main part - and AMD has demonstrated time and time again it CANNOT BRING UP NEW PROCESSES in a TIMELY FASHION. Re: "What would that lead time be?" FOr AMD - 18 months is my guess - assuming they can "RELEARN" how to do FLASH in production - since Fujitsu has been doing all the important FLASH production for many years. Paul

To: Bill Jackson who wrote (88587)	9/21/1999 5:22:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Bill, Re: "Fabbing multiple parts" The fab can certainly run multiple processess. However the design would need to be retooled for different equipment. In addition process development is required to move the existing flash process over. We are looking at 9-12 months work if the fab is not already running some flash. I understood that Fab 25 was already running some flash. I may well be wrong of course. I know that flash development was done at SDC. But once SDC was shut down all development moved to fab 25. I also recall Mot was sending engineers to fab 25 to learn flash processing, just as AMD engineers were at Mos 13 learning cu. My guess is that Fab 25 could start churning out flash by mid 2000. regards, Kash