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To: The Phoenix who wrote (997)9/21/1999 7:44:00 PM
From: Wizard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3350
 
You asked a technical question and I am not more technical than the JNPR development team and neither are you. Don't try to compare the 12000 to the M40 in technicalities, you will make errors in your assessment and your assessment doesn't matter anyway, its what customers do. I can sit here and type that the M40's modular architecture makes it next generation or that the state of the art ASIC's make it next generation but the fact is that it is a combination of many things and customers are validating this.



To: The Phoenix who wrote (997)9/22/1999 8:59:00 AM
From: Frank A. Coluccio  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3350
 
Gary, Wizard.. I've been enjoying the dialog, and would like to comment on some of the observations made by each of you:

"Clearly there is no difference and in fact the M40 has less functionality than the GSR.."

One of the points which has been made by those involved in the vBNS pilot in California (which currently uses both JNPR and CSCO wares), is that the next gen heavy duty router doesn't need to do all of the classical things that a traditional edge or enterprise gateway class routers do, or even what a traditional backbone router of yesterday, did.

Those secondary features which look out to the distribution nets just add clog to the main reason for having a high speed core router, to begin with.

Having said that, however, the same source acknowledges that one of the essential ingredients in any next gen router is to be IOS-aware, if not fully supportive of IOS in many instances, as well.

Perhaps the elimination of many of these secondary functions (from an edge-core routing perspective), in addition to being able to handle very large MPLS flows at higher forwarding rates in a quasi optical-routed fashion is what will distinguish the next gens from today's backbone routers. Comments welcome.

Regards, Frank Coluccio