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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (72743)	9/22/1999 4:32:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574261

Tench, Re: "533/600 PIII release" Well it sure is bizarre to introduce a product to help a ramp down. I don't buy it at all. Originally the camino/rambus/PIII533/600 combo was due in June. Then it was delayed into september. I think management doesn't want to delay camino/rambus again as the media keeps harping on the camino/rambus delays etc. So they are introducing a product that will start phasing out in 30 days that the big OEMS are not too excited about. As far as camino/820 this is now only 5% of build for Q4. So most coppermines will be the 600/650 grades. So volumes of 667 and 733 parts will be less than 5% of mix. And remember PB has spent a long time bitching about low volumes of Athlon 650's etc!!! The whole situation is very bizarre - I would at least expect a 700Mhz speed coppermine - but with a 7x multiplier those latencies get awfully long. Interesting mess that Intel has gotten itself in. regards, Kash

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (72743)	9/22/1999 7:12:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1574261

Tench - RE: "The only purpose for Katmai 533B and 600B (the 'B' suffix stands for 133 MHz FSB) is to allow the 820 Camino chipset to be released earlier than Coppermine. But the time difference is only one month, which isn't much of a window. Maybe Intel wasn't confident that the Coppermine ramp-up could match the Camino ramp-up (Rambus difficulties aside), which is why they thought Katmai would be necessary to fill in the gap." 133Mhz bus capable Katmai was supposed to come out in June, but Intel had to go out and DELAY Camino. And Cuontimemine was supposed to come out 2 weeks ago, but Intel had to DELAY that. So Intel was expecting a three month gap btwn the two. That made sense because 3 months is quite a bit of time, and it provided a temporary speed upgrade until Cuontimemine came out. But since Intel had to screw up TWICE, they are stuck with a currently pointless product (Camino) because almost no one is using it in quantity until Cuontimemine probably. Why should OEMs come out with a 600MHz "B" system when they can wait a month longer come out with a more powerful and probably same price 600MHz "EB" system?