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To: miraje who wrote (60584)	9/23/1999 2:49:00 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 67261

>What would you do if you were making around $20 a week and your wife and kids were sick and starving? Would you work within the "existing legal structure" or would you do whatever you could to help your family?< I would like to think I would work within the existing legal structure to do whatever I could to help my family. Merely because I am dying gives me no legal or moral authority to overturn the law of an entire nation merely to prolong my life. Even so, things being as they are, I could survive and feed my family sufficiently without any money whatever. >I don't condone breaking the law, but all I ask is that you and JLA try to view the situation from the immigrants perspective. Right and wrong and the law are not a cut and dried given in this situation, IMO< Well you will see the thing clearly if you whittle away all the distractions to see its essentials. Apply the matter as a principle that applies both to the individual as well as to the group. Consider your own home, your wife and children and your way of life. Consider your value system, your morals, your religious beliefs. Now then I have no right to illegally break into your home to live indefinitely in your garage to eat whatever I might find there simply because I am cold, hungry and dying. I certainly have no right to demand you extend to my children and me food, medical care and education, this, from your own resources. In all cases I should ask you if I might live in your garage.

To: miraje who wrote (60584)	9/23/1999 3:14:00 PM
From: DMaA	Respond to of 67261

Some fraction of needy people are in need through no fault of their own and should be helped. The rest are in that state because of poor, even anti-social choices they've made. You can argue endlessly about the percentages of the two groups. The conundrum of welfare is this: How do you help the first group without subsidizing and therefore encouraging the poor choices of the second group? I don't think entitlement programs administered by gigantic bureaucracies is the best way.