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Politics : To be a Liberal,you have to believe that..... -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John Lacelle who wrote (3508)	9/25/1999 5:27:00 AM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6418

I bet if someone told you that Bubba was buggering little green men from Mars in the oval office you'd believe every word of it. I've seen this story before, and it is so thoroughly ridiculous that it isn't worth the time or trouble it would take to refute it. Whoever concocted it, and whoever spreads it, is displaying a degree of ignorance so stunning that it ought to be in a museum. Why don't you learn something about Indonesia and Timor before shooting your mouth off? You might sound like less of an idiot. What on earth makes you think the Lippo Group gives a damn about East Timor? The Indonesian business community - Lippo very much included - wants stability, a nice psuedo-democratic facade to please the meddling westerners, a rising stock market, etc. Most of them would just as soon dump Timor, negotiate for a cut of the Timor Gap oil (not a big deal compared to other Indonesian deposits), and move on; Timor isn't worth what it costs to occupy it. The military feels differently. Street demonstrations, international sanctions, and the general upset caused by being in the International eye cost the Lippo group far more than they could ever hope to gain from East Timor. letting the Indonesian Army rape and pillage Catholics in East Timor Oh my, how awful... tell me, where were you and your lovely humanitarian sentiments in 1975, when Indonesia invaded E. Timor, raping and pillaging numerous Catholics, with the full support of the US government? Is it only a problem when a Democrat is in power? And where were you when every tinpot third world dictator on the planet was slipping cash to Republican campaigns, and raking in billions in aid & "loans" as payback? If you think that the purchase of influence in DC by foreign interests is something new, I can only pity your naivete. I don't give a rat's ass about Clinton or either party, but I despise ignorance, and you seem to have enough for any three normal human beings. A story is not necessarily true because it is anti-Clinton. Everybody in politics is lying to you to try to get your support; that's their job. Try using the same critical faculties on the stories you want to believe that you use on the ones you don't want to believe; you might learn something. Which would apparently be a novel experience.