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To: Goutam who wrote (72963)	9/24/1999 1:08:00 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571949

A very smart move by AMD! This is from C't magazine (translated from Goutama RE <<<German into English using Altavista) AMD brings new Low Cost processor With the AMD K6-2+ AMD in the Low Cost market wants to bring out still another further processor for the base 7. While the K6-2 without L2-Cache comes and the K6-III is provided with 256 KByte L2-Cache, the new type is situated in the golden center: it has an integrated L2-Cache with 128 KByte -- thus just as much as the Celeron of the ore competitor Intel.>>> I agree....a very smart move! ted

To: Goutam who wrote (72963)	9/24/1999 1:14:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571949

Re: "With the AMD K6-2+ AMD in the Low Cost market wants to bring out still another further processor for the base 7. While the K6-2 without L2-Cache comes and the K6-III is provided with 256 KByte L2-Cache, the new type is situated in the golden center: it has an integrated L2-Cache with 128 KByte -- thus just as much as the Celeron of the ore competitor Intel. " Betcha it's a K63 that's downbinned. AMD must be throwing away so many because of yield problems they decided to sell the ones with half a cache. EP

To: Goutam who wrote (72963)	9/24/1999 1:46:00 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571949

Goutama, <A very smart move by AMD! This is from C't magazine (translated from German into English using Altavista) AMD brings new Low Cost processor With the AMD K6-2+ AMD in the Low Cost market wants to bring out still another further processor for the base 7. While the K6-2 without L2-Cache comes and the K6-III is provided with 256 KByte L2-Cache, the new type is situated in the golden center: it has an integrated L2-Cache with 128 KByte -- thus just as much as the Celeron of the ore competitor Intel. > Unless Dresden helps this K6-2+ keep MHz parity with CuMine-128, this may be yet another lost cause. Chuck

To: Goutam who wrote (72963)	9/24/1999 2:16:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 1571949

<it has an integrated L2-Cache with 128 KByte -- thus just as much as the Celeron of the ore competitor Intel.> Let's see. A 128K L2 cache on a chip that already has 64K L1 cache. Not that the L2 cache would be useless or anything, but I just don't think it will help K6-2 any, especially since it doesn't help the two biggest problems of the K6-2: slow clock speed, and poor FPU. Tenchusatsu

To: Goutam who wrote (72963)	9/24/1999 4:01:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1571949

Goutama - RE: "A very smart move by AMD! This is from C't magazine" Neat. My guess was AMD was going to move the K6-III to take the place the K6-2 has right now, but this "+" is better because it is going to be an even smaller processor. The K6-III on the .18 process is more than likely going to be much smaller than the .25 K6-2 is right now, so this "+" is going to be really small. Maybe even close to Winchip size. This "+" provides a good stepping stone to the Athlon Select. BTW, I bet Scumbria is cringing thinking of a L2 cache only 2X the L1 cache. (He's the one who said it is best to have a 4X L2:L1 cache ration.)