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To: gdichaz who wrote (1927)9/25/1999 12:41:00 PM
From: Eric L  Respond to of 13582
 
haz,

<< When I try to explain WAP, I find I don't fully understand what it is >>

You might want to check out this link:

www-2.phone.com

Can't exactly remember if this is the link I'm thinking of, but I think it was posted to the phone.com thread by Pat Mudge after she attended a WAP forum seminar. If so, there is some excellent material in it.

WAP to you <g>

- Eric -



To: gdichaz who wrote (1927)9/25/1999 7:25:00 PM
From: engineer  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 13582
 
optimization is easy from an arm chair.

Fact 1. Palm OS has the largest market share. PERIOD.

Fact 2. Palm OS is the smallest and lowest power code. PERIOD.

Fact 3. It was easy and cheap to integrate and provided ENOUGH functionality to meet the market demands.

Food for thought..Why do people keep believing the usoft brainwash taht you need all that OS and "power" to do something? DOS still runs under windows and when you write an APP which is down at teh DOS level, it runs 10 times faster than in windows, it runs with alot less memory than windows. So, if your going to pay alot of dollars to build a consumer item and carry alot of baggage for a battery, which one do you go with? the less elegant solution which makes product sense, or the markting hype buzz word which makes no sense at all?

Suggest that you read the WAP spec. It is yet another HDML spec written by Phone.com and cleverly given to the WAP forum to be implemented by anyone (does Java ring a bell here?).



To: gdichaz who wrote (1927)9/25/1999 8:48:00 PM
From: Sawtooth  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13582
 
Hello, Chaz. An article related to the current discussion:

Wireless industry syncs up
By Carmen Nobel, PC Week Online
September 24, 1999 4:41 PM ET

The wireless industry is undergoing a harmonic convergence of sorts, as software developers, data service providers and hardware makers work on methods to synchronize mobile devices with home-office data.

The developments are under way on several fronts. BellSouth Wireless Data L.P., for example, is helping Microsoft Corp. marry wireless Windows CE devices with applications on users' PCs.

The companies are working to integrate BellSouth's interactive paging service as a link between CE devices and Microsoft's Exchange messaging software, said Bill Lenahan, president and CEO of BellSouth Wireless Data, in Woodbridge, N.J.

"The concept is to push and pull so you can ultimately get an e-mail message sent out to your handheld immediately," Lenahan said. The service is due next year.

BellSouth also plans to offer data synchronization between pagers and Exchange as well as between pagers and Lotus Development Corp.'s Notes.

Separately, Microsoft, of Redmond, Wash., plans to launch its MSN.com Mobile Service for handheld devices, which will enable smart phones and personal digital assistants to send instant messages and view Web content such as sports scores, news and weather information. The next version of the service, due by year's end, will integrate with MSN.com, a revamped version of the online service that Microsoft launched on Thursday.

Big Blue's news

IBM is taking a different tack, working to make markup languages communicate across different wireless devices. The company's Pervasive Computing unit, in Somers, N.Y., has developed code that can take a markup language in one format on one device and spit it out in another custom language -- from Voice Extensible Markup Language to HTML, for example. The group will announce partnerships with U.S. carriers to support the code and to offer services within the next year, according to sources.

The IBM group is also working on ways to better manage the growing crop of mobile devices based on different platforms, such as 3Com Corp.'s Palm, Microsoft's Windows CE and Symbian Ltd.'s Symbian.

"In general, the [United States] suffers for the fact that they don't have a single standard," said Ajei Gopal, IBM's director of technology for pervasive computing. IBM will work with carriers, Gopal said, to take management capabilities to all the wireless hardware vendors that IBM supports, regardless of what platform the vendors' devices run on.

"I don't expect to see common application development between Palm, CE and Symbian any time soon," he said. "That's OK. We're looking at more of a services model."

In the wings: Palm VII

3Com's Palm Computing division, in Santa Clara, Calif., is also looking toward improved services for its Palm VII, which sources said is due on Oct. 4. More than 100 Web sites will be accessible via the new Palm device, with 1,000 more expected next year, officials said.

What won't be immediately available for the Palm, or most other devices for that matter, is flat-rate service.

"Flat-rate is not something that networks like to do," BellSouth's Lenahan said. "The only ones who do that are the ones that are desperate."

But Open Sky, a yet-to-be-launched wireless Internet service for handhelds based in Mountain View, Calif., plans to offer a flat-rate service through multiple carriers, starting with Cellular Digital Packet Data and extending to other networks next year.

Options proliferate

Flat-rate or not, users' options for wireless access are expanding.

Bell Atlantic Mobile plans to launch wireless Internet access over the CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) network next quarter. In addition, parent company Bell Atlantic Corp.'s pending mergers with GTE Corp. and Vodafone AirTouch plc. will expand the New York-based carrier's CDMA coverage across the United States, likely reducing roaming charges for wireless customers.

The emergence of more mature wireless services and products has yet to accomplish one goal: minimizing the number of handheld devices users are carrying.

"It may be too much to expect my [cellular] phone to be able to do everything the Palm can do," said Steve Durst, an engineer at Skaion Corp., in Arlington, Mass. "It would be great if they could figure out the lowest common denominator of what both can do and sync that up accordingly."

zdnet.com




To: gdichaz who wrote (1927)9/27/1999 9:07:00 PM
From: w molloy  Respond to of 13582
 
i.e. it is "not a full
OS which runs real time events", that makes me wonder whether the Q may not be
better off with a full OS such as Symbian EPOC or Microsoft WinCE?


WinCE can't handle real time events either.

CE is undergoing a complete re-write to address this and other deficiencies (e.g. memory footprint). Will this new CE find
a market in 18 months time? Not if it exhibits the legendary MSFT
quality.

w.