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To: Cirruslvr who wrote (73099)9/25/1999 5:12:00 PM
From: Process Boy  Respond to of 1572335
 
Cirrus - <Therefore this guy is full of BS based on my assumption he thinks Coppermine is PIIIB.>

One of us on Monday should call him and ask for clarification.

PB



To: Cirruslvr who wrote (73099)9/25/1999 6:11:00 PM
From: Elmer  Respond to of 1572335
 
Re: ", I am lead to believe that the PIIIB (or Coppermine in this company's incorrect view) is the processor Chris was talking about when he said that Coppermine has a "significant" performance advantage over the current PIII and Athlon. "

I'm not as convinced as you are. While he may be confused about the name I don't see any way that a non CuMine PIII would jump from slower than to "significantly faster than" an Athlon, simply by going to a 133MHz FSB even if that were on a BX motherboard.

Re: "Now, do you mean to tell me that a PIIIB will be from 13-40% faster than a normal PIII? And that would just be to match the Athlon. Add more % if his "significant" is to have any meaning."

13% is conceivable but I think 40% is out of reach. Anyway, I'm not trying to tell you anything. I just showed you what someone else was reporting. It may turn out that he is wrong but I don't fully agree with your theory.

EP



To: Cirruslvr who wrote (73099)9/25/1999 6:30:00 PM
From: kapkan4u  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1572335
 
<Now, do you mean to tell me that a PIIIB will be from 13-40% faster than a normal PIII? And that would just be to match the Athlon. Add more % if his "significant" is to have any meaning.

I think NOT. Therefore this guy is full of BS based on my assumption he thinks Coppermine is PIIIB.>

Cirruslvr,

I think that there is a campaign of rumor and innuendo orchestrated by Intel trying to talk up the CuMine performance. We have seen numerous manifestations of it here on this board and elsewhere. You can always find a benchmark that fits into CuMine 256KB L2, but does not fit in Athlon's 128KB L1 to make a point. Note that the same people who claim the inside knowledge of CuMine's prowess do not quote any benchmarks.

Why is Intel doing this? My theory is that they are hoping to push AMD into an overly aggressive Athlon MHz ramp. Remember that AMD tried to do that with k6-2 late in 1998 and it cost them dearly when the process broke.

Kap