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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (73243)9/27/1999 1:50:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson  Respond to of 1578501
 
Tenchu, This is quite true, Rambus may in fact work well and be the future for fast computers. This is just a teething problem, so if we expect people to recognize the Athlon teething problems as just that, we should do the same with rambus. I suspect that Intel did check it thouroughly? But with specially prepared samples? from Rambus?. Now there is volume the problems emerge......maybe they will get better soon. I am glad those problems accrue to Intel as by the time the athlon implements them the problems may be solved. What if the AThlon works flawlessly with Rambus and it is an Intel problem. When will AMD be able to test some RDRAM to see if they march?

Bill

Bill



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (73243)9/27/1999 4:11:00 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 1578501
 
Hi Tenchusatsu; I doubt that RDRAM will see much use with Athlon. The reason is that Athlon is a high end product, Rambus is best used in low end systems.

Rambus's natural market is small stuff, this is because of the superb granularity that it provides at high bandwidth. Larger systems can get the required high bandwidth by widening the data busses. SDRAMs are available in x32 mode, and pin counts are going way, way up in controllers right now. (At least on the ones on the drawing board.) Since the newer, comparable DDR and SDRAM provide a significantly lower latency, with lower power dissipation, and since the resulting system has the same bandwidth as an RDRAM system, design engineers are obviously going to select the less expensive, more reliable solution.

I really doubt if anybody is thinking about putting RDRAM in big systems right now. Rambus lost design wins at the high end when they had to drop from 32 chips on a bus to 24. When they drop that to 16, they will just lose more.

But RDRAM is getting quite cheap, at least temporarily, as the box makers cancel their orders with the memory houses. So somebody is going to want to buy those parts... I know! Sell them to Gateway!

-- Carl