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To: Petz who wrote (73407)	9/29/1999 12:15:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 1573428

Petz - <The 733 and 666 are a "no-go" as far as a sellable product.> We'll see. PB

To: Petz who wrote (73407)	9/29/1999 4:25:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573428

Petz - <I don't think OEM's can validate using the VIA chipset before Christmas for their business customers, so the 133 MHz chips are not sellable.> Well, it looks like Micron, and now IBM, will have a VIA PC 133 solution. Note the IBM machine is aimed at business customers. Although in the same article IBM indicates it is still behind i820 when available, the adoption of VIA Apollo is probably not great news for the i820 folks at Intel. It is, however, an outlet for 133 FSB Coppermines. In light of the current situation, a positive, IMHO. If a 533 PIIIB can plug into this board, so could a 7xx PIII-EB (Coppermine w/ 133 FSB). Qualifying this with the fact that I have no idea if IBM is actually going to market this configuration, but it appears to me the infrastructure is already there, and IMHO nullifying your argument about PC-133 systems not being certified for business users by the end of the year. PB. theregister.co.uk Posted 29/09/99 8:27am by Linda Harrison VIA chipset found lurking in IBM PC IBM showed off its Autumn collection this week, though admitted it had been forced to withdraw one of its proposed PCs at the last minute due to technical hitches at Intel. Big Blue treated the press to a sneak preview of its "secure" PC range and its first mini-notebook for the UK, along with a new ThinkPad line, at its London South Bank offices. IBM said it had been all fired up to announce a desktop PC supporting Rambus memory with the i820 - aka Camino - chipset from Intel. But Chipzilla's decision to can i820, for the time being at least, put paid to that. "We'll adopt the technology when it comes to market," said Steven Loeschorn, IBM worldwide brand marketing manager, commercial desktops. "But for now, we have to wait for Intel." Luckily for IBM, it had not based its entire Autumn range on Intel chipsets. It was able to announce the PC 300PL line of desktops, aimed at the corporate mainstream, which will be IBM's first foray into non-Intel chipset desktops. The machines will use an embedded security - or encryption - chip on the motherboard. They will run on the Pentium III 500MHz or 533MHz processors. But for Big Blue's first tentative steps away from Intel, it will use a chipset design which has been licensed from Via Technologies - the AGP 4X/133 chipset. The PC 300PL systems will have 64MB or 128MB of memory, 2 SDRAM memory DIMMS, 10.1GB or 20.4GB hard drive, with an RRP starting at #993. IBM claimed these would be "the world's most secure commercial PCs", including features such as secure e-mail, digital signatures and data encryption. It also announced the IBM PC 300GL desktop PC, using up to PIII 600MHz and aimed at the commercial market. These lines will be launched in the UK on 19 October. IBM also announced the ThinkPad 240, an A5-sized notebook weighing just 1.3kg and measuring 25mm. It has a 300MHz Celeron chip, 64MB SDRAM that can be expanded to 192 MB, and a 6.4GB hard drive. For its new ThinkPad i Series notebooks, which come with a home TV DVD film player, Internet buttons and keyboard light, the vendor has taken a leaf out of Apple's book. The laptops will have their own range of optional snap-on coloured covers. These nifty notebooks will be available from next week and are aimed at very small businesses or users who want a machine for both work and home. There will be three models, with Celeron 400MHz or 433MHz, 12.1 inch or 14.1 inch TFT display or 13 inch HPA display. The covers are available in seven colours including Mars Red Metallic, Eclipse Blue Metallic or even Andromeda Green. ®

To: Petz who wrote (73407)	9/29/1999 5:23:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573428

Petz - 6xx PIII-EB's would go good in here too.... commerce.www.ibm.com ... Processor Processor (CPU) Pentium III Processor internal clock speed1 533B MHz Planar clock speed 133 MHz SMP processors std 1 SMP processors max 1 Upgradable processor Yes Processor manufacturer Intel Math co-processor Built-in L1 internal CPU cache 32 KB Processor upgrade options Faster Pentium III processors (if available from Intel) SMP capable (multiple processors) No L2 cache std 512KB L2 cache max 512KB L2 external CPU cache type Synchronous pipeline burst BIOS type Flash ROM support DMI BIOS v2.0 Memory Memory (RAM) std 64 MB Memory (RAM) max3 1024 MB RAM speed 133MHz ns Optional RAM configuration 168-pin DIMMs RAM type SDRAM RAM slots total 2 DIMM RAM slots available 1 DIMM .... micronpc.com Processor The new Millennia MAX desktop offers the unparalleled performance combination of the latest Intel® Pentium® III processor and the new VIA Technologies chipset, the Apollo Pro 133A. This unique and powerful combination allows the Pentium III processors at 600B MHz or 533B MHz to maximize the new 133 MHz system bus with 512KB L2 cache for truly dazzling performance. With this dynamic pairing of the industry's latest processor and chipset technologies, the new Millennia MAX system is firmly positioned at the beginning of the next technology curve, guaranteeing performance to blaze through even the most demanding computing tasks today while offering flexibility, longevity, and upgradability for tomorrow's growing needs. ... The Micron Millennia MAX uses PC100-, PC133-, and VC133-compliant SDRAM, short for Synchronous Dynamic Random Access Memory, an industry-standard type of memory that synchronizes itself with the main system bus for increased speed, eliminating bottlenecks and streamlining performance. The speed gains are particularly noticeable on the latest systems that have a 133 MHz system bus. ... I also believe the Intel i810e chipset which supports 133 FSB would be a decent configuration for business computers of a certain market. In summary, I don't agree at all that 133 FSB Coppermines will be "unsellable". PB