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To: QuietWon who wrote (80)9/30/1999 12:37:00 PM
From: QuietWon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186
 
Thomson I-watch & Autex -->

To: Jack Hartmann who wrote (100978)
From: George Black Thursday, Sep 30 1999 12:19PM ET
Reply # of 100994

Jack, Here it is.
Last Shadows Thread
msg 21473
Message 11238776
This is the text, of course I don't know if true, but I have observed some things that did make sense on I Watch.

SCAM ALERT! SCAM ALERT! The Autex Scam alert! scum sucking oinks oinks
oinks!

Institutional Sell indicators?

Thompson I-Watch indicators:

Several things you need to know:

(1) The primary driver for their graph comes from Autex, A Thompson Financial
Services Product -
(2) Autex is an intra-broker advertising system. It allows Broker/Dealers to indicate Buy
or Sell "advertisements" to other Autex owners.
(3) They ARE NOT firm bids or offers like they are in Instinet. They are only
advertisements of interest.
(4) The advertiser, if they want, can show bids/offers of over 50,000 shares in a
separate window called "Supers".
(5) MANY firms use Autex as a smoke screen. IF I was a size seller I may post a size
BUYER to determine if other sellers are outside of me. When other sellers call me I
could just say sorry that's an old message. I cleaned up my buy side a few minutes ago.
Then I sell like Hell knowing another large seller is out there also.
(6) MANY firms use AUTEX as a means to drum up business. On a Up day buyers
are looking for stock. I could post in Autex as a seller, almost guaranteeing a call (even
though I have no stock to sell). I tell the caller "I just cleaned up my seller. He's been
reloading at 50,000 per clip. Let me work your order for a few minutes and get ahold of
my seller". Then you shop the order like hell all over Wall Street and try to find a seller.
Its called "getting involved" on the street.
(7) Note that large Sell interests (Supers) were indicated again and again and the stock
kept going up. this tells me somebody was posting as a size seller to fish out an order
and that a large seller probably never existed.

These are just my observations. Autex is NOT a firm Bid/Offer system. It is my
experience that 70+% of the "advertisements" are actually people either fishing or
actually working in the opposite direction of their advertisement and trying to find the
competition. I would take the I-Watch data with a BIG grain of salt. I would go so far
as to use it as a contra indicator. When it shows large sell, I would guess that 60-70%
of the time it is actually better to buy. Also note that ALL of the indications are
institutional. No retail order flow is advertised on Autex.

Just for Information :)

Eagleye