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To: Prognosticator who wrote (6428)	9/29/1999 4:43:00 PM
From: James Connolly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10309

Released last week. HP Unveils Web "Plug" that Extends Internet to Measuring, Monitoring and Remote Control tmo.hp.com The new embedded measurement and control "plug" is designed to accommodate a virtually unlimited number of measurement and automation applications. The matchbook-sized smart module (part No. BFOOT-10501) provides an easy, low-cost commercial way to make products as varied as weather stations, blood analyzers and fitness machines usable via the Internet. Also, integrating the server module into commercial designs has been simplified through HP's use of the VxWorks real-time operating system (RTOS) and Tornado development tools from Wind River Systems of Alameda, Calif. HP and Wind River have entered into an agreement allowing HP to resell the Tornado development environment specifically for its new Ethernet controllers. hpie.com Regards JC

To: Prognosticator who wrote (6428)	10/1/1999 12:10:00 AM
From: lkj	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 10309

Prognosticator, I went to the Embedded Conference on Wed. Besides Linux, ECOS was another free OS. But one problem with these free OSes is tool support; GDB just doesn't cut it. Wind River was the clear leader. A revolutionary debugging tool I saw was Live Code from Applied Microsystems. It allows programmers to add code to the target without recompiling and redownloading. It also offers advanced tracing capability that eliminates the break_point_setting_and_single_stepping method. This not only makes debugging MUCH easier, but also A LOT faster. As of right now, Live Code only runs on PowerPC and Tornado. Without any knowledge on how Live Code works, my guess is that hardware support is required. Perhaps the most interesting thing is that Applied Microsystems told us that Live Code is used for the Dolphin development. (Dolphin is the next generation Nintento game console.) If Live Code only runs on Tornado, does this mean Dolphin is using VxWorks? As for Java, I still don't think it is ready. Even the people at the SUN booth didn't know much about JVM and KVM. A co-worker of mine saw something called CHIVE (spell??) from HP as a flavor of embedded JAVA. (With so many versions of Java, the original purpose of Java is defeated.) Microsoft had a big booth promoting both CE and NT. But they don't have the type of developer support that Tornado has. From a investing standpoint, I think WRS is poised for major growth in the next few years. Fidler recently spoke to the SJ Mercury News that WRS will grow to a billion dollar company in 4 years. This requires a 75% growth rate. I am not sure if WRS can grow that fast, but there is enough potentials to see how Fidler came up with this statement. I am buying more WIND. Khan

To: Prognosticator who wrote (6428)	10/5/1999 1:11:00 AM
From: Anthony Tran	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10309

Prognosticator, Today I e-mail to Tawei Liao the author of the 3 excellent articles in Internet Conexion and ask his opion about Linux Embedded System. Here is his e-mail replied to my question. > Hi Mr. Liao, > > I was a great pleasure and interest that I red your 3 articles on embedded > system. Would you mind comment on my following questions: > > Will Linux embedded system has any significant impact on commercial ES such > as Wind River etc.. > Why Intel does not use Linux free ES instead of WR? > > Thank you very much on your comments. > > Anthony Tran > Hi, You asked a very good question. My answer is that linux embedded won't be ready for prime time anything soon (in the next five year). There are several reasons: 1. Linux kernel is a monolith architecture, like IOS right now. It comes in one big chunk. Any changes means that you have to reboot the whole system. That's not good. 2. Support for a whole range of microprocessors. Companies like RedHat sells customer service, but they don't do heavy duty development. You need to have a lot of heavy duty development in order to do the BSP (board support packages) for a lot of different processors. 3. Suppose a company does develop a lot of support and also come up with a good debugging environment. Do you think that company will still give it out for free? I don't think so. The appeal of free linux is gone once you start adding a lot of features. I hope that answers your question. Let me know what you think. :-) -Tawei