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To: Charles R who wrote (73639)	10/1/1999 2:01:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Respond to of 1573076

Charles - <Let's do some apples to apples comparisons of shipping systems as they become available.> Even the rumors put it close. Yes, let's do. PB

To: Charles R who wrote (73639)	10/1/1999 12:31:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1573076

PB and Chuck- RE: "<It is clear to me at this point that this "seventh generation processor" is in the same base path as Coppermine, a years old core. I find the AMD marketing /PR thing quite disingenuous.> It is clear to you? OK. Can you please post the Specint and SpecFP numbers as soon as you get your hands on them? And, some one on the thread will graciously provide the equivalents for the then shipping Athlon family member." In SPECInt_base the Athlon 600 gets 27.2 and the PIII 600 gets 24. (The Dell 600 gets 24.6, but that system has 256MB RAM vs. 128 of the other two.) So Cuontimemine 600 needs to be 13 1/3% faster than the PIII in this benchmarkto reach the Athlon's performance. It will probably be very close. In SPECfp_base the Athlon gets 21.6 and the PII 600 gets 14.6. For some reason AMD doesn't submit the SPECfp score, only the _base one. The PIII 600's SPECfp score is 15.9 so I'll use that number for Intel's benefit. Cuontimemine 600 needs to 35.8% faster than the PIII 600 to reach the Athlon's perfomrmance. I don't see this happening. If I compare _base scores, then the % increases to 47.9%! Ain't likely to happen. Sorry. BTW, the Athlon 650's scores are up. In Int, it puts up a very good score when compared to HP PA8500 and Compaq Alpha systems with GBs of RAM. spec.org