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To: dumbmoney who wrote (31374)	10/1/1999 4:56:00 PM
From: Dave B	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Get real. The machines used different hard drives, among other things. It was a system performance test, not a Rambus vs. SDRAM test. Exactly! Since probably greater than 90% of the buyers of computers in the market do not assemble their own systems, the important comparisons are one complete system against another complete system. PC buyers buy a package, not individual components. We discussed this on the thread this summer, long before you guys showed up. Do a search for posts with my name and the Pioneer DVL-91 LD/DVD player. (Short form -- I didn't buy a DVD player worrying about who made the laser, the resistors, the printed circuit board, the rubber feet, and the copper sheeting. I bought a highly-rated DVD/LD player from Pioneer. Most people don't buy a computer based on who made the hard drive, who made the CRT tube, who made the rubber feet and who made the resistors. They buy a PC from Dell or Compaq or IBM. If they're interested in a high-performance PC, and PC Magazine says that the Dell package is faster than the Micron package, the Dell system is what they're going to buy.) What you are seeing is the start of the reports you're going to see from now on -- systems using Rambus are going to do the basic stuff that doesn't require any power components just as well as any other system, and will do better on activities that do push the envelope. Welcome to the real world of customers rather than bits and bytes. Dave

To: dumbmoney who wrote (31374)	10/1/1999 5:47:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 93625

<Get real. The machines used different hard drives, among other things. It was a system performance test, not a Rambus vs. SDRAM test.> Good point. But the anti-Rambus coalition uses very harsh and unfair standards to judge RDRAM performance. If I used the same harsh and unfair standards of judgement that they do, I'd use PC Magazine's article as undeniable evidence that PC133 and VC-SDRAM is an utter failure, especially in a real-world system like Micron's PC. Does anyone remember the slogans of the anti-Rambus crowd? Like "PC133 will demonstrate lower latency"? Like "VC-SDRAM will have the ability to handle streaming traffic"? I sure don't see these benefits right now. Perhaps I'm being a little too short-sighted, but then again, the anti-Rambus crowd could also be accused of being short-sighted in their quest to vilify Intel and Rambus. Tenchusatsu