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To: im a survivor who wrote (15835)10/2/1999 9:35:00 AM
From: Jeffrey D  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 29970
 
Portion of H&Q report yesterday where they reiterated a "buy" rating. Jeff
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Controlling the Cable Pipes
Excite@Home has exclusive relationships with cable operators representing
roughly 60% of the domestic market for cable television. We believe that much
of the company's valuation is derived from these exclusive relationships. As
a result, recent uncertainty surrounding the future of the company's exclusive
control of its partners' cable networks has pressured shares. We believe that
pressure on ATHM shares related to this uncertainty could provide a buying
opportunity for two reasons:
*By the time the majority of the exclusivity agreements expire in 2002, we
expect Excite@Home to serve over 5 million customers or roughly 60% of the
market for cable modem service and over 40% of the entire broadand market,
giving the company an "AOL-like" competitive position among consumer Internet
service providers.
*Even if Excite@Home exclusivity is terminated, the company has built an
infrastructure that could be utilized to serve other ISPs delivering cable
modem service. In other words, Excite@Home could actually benefit from
forthcoming potential modem competition.Excite@Home Distribution Via Dell
Excite@Home announced a partnership with Dell Computer that will allow Dell
customers to sign up for @Home's high-speed cable Internet service. Dell
customers will be able to place orders for the @Home service with a Dell
customer service representative when ordering a Dell Dimension desktop
computer or Inspiron notebook PC. We believe the Dell partnership provides
@Home with a significant distribution channel for its high speed Internet
service. By partnering with Dell, @Home has access to new computer buyers,
who are primed to sign up for Internet access. Furthermore, we expect that
Dell will ultimately pre-install Excite@Home software and hardware,
significantly expediting the deployment process. While we are not raising our
@Home subscriber numbers, we believe the Dell partnership could potentially
accelerate @Home subscriber acquisition.Excite@Home Deutschland
Excite@Home announced a joint venture with Tele-Columbus and Deutsche Bank
Investor to offer the broadband Excite@Home service in Germany. We expect
Excite@Home to launch a broadband consumer Internet service in Germany that is
comparable in speed and features to the company's leading broadband service in
the US. In addition, Excite@Home Deutschland should offer content tailored to
German users.
Tele-Columbus, Germany's second largest cable operator behind Deutsche
Telekom, serves 1.7 million customers in a cable footprint of 2.2 million
homes passed (roughly 10% of Germany's households). The agreement also
includes other cable systems that Tele-Columbus's parent company Deutsche Bank
Investor may acquire in the future. With 27 million homes passed, Germany is
the second largest cable market in the world behind the United States.
Furthermore, with roughly 11 million users, Germany is the third largest
Internet market in the world behind the US and Japan.
Excite@Home Deutschland should strengthen the company's position in the
growing market for Internet service in Western Europe, where IDC estimates
home connections to the Internet will grow at a compound annual rate of 39%
between 1998 and 2003, compared to our estaimte of 16% compound annual growth
in the US during the same time period. The German service should also
compliment the company's other international initiatives including @Home
Nederland in the Netherlands, @Home Japan (a joint venture with Jupiter
Telecommunications and Sumitomo Corporation), and @Home Australia (a joint
venture with Cable&Wireless Optus). Excite@Home's cable footprint now stands
at 69 million homes passed, 16.3 million of which are outside the United States.
Third Quarter Preview
By the end of September 1999, we expect Excite@Home's subscriber base to climb
to 780,000, representing 160,000 net broadband subscriber additions and 26%
sequential growth (over 270% annual growth). The continued explosive
subscriber growth should fuel third quarter sequential @Home revenue growth of
31% (over 400% annual growth) to over $26 million. Media revenue, which
includes revenue from the Excite portal business, should remain flat
sequentially at under $71 million as a result of the termination of the
Netscape agreement. With an additional $11 million from the @Work business,
Excite@Home total third quarter revenue should pass $108 million, representing
87% annual growth.
Modest improvements in cost structure should allow Excite@Home to narrow its
operating loss to $6.5 million, from $7.1 million in the second quarter. We
still expect the company to break even on the operating line in the fourth
quarter of this year. Our third quarter recurring EPS estimate is a loss of
$0.01. Including merger-related expenses, our EPS estimate is a loss of $0.05.
Conclusion
With 620,000 customers, Excite@Home is the largest provider of consumer
broadband Internet service. In late May, the broadband ISP merged with
Internet portal Excite, giving the combined company two components of what
could become a complete, next-generation consumer online service. While
Excite@Home shares could experience pressure related to the company's ability
to maintain its exclusive relationships with the cable operators, we believe
that by the time these regulatory and market issues are resolved, the company
will have garnered enough market share and market power to establish it as one
of the leading operators in the consumer online service space. We believe
that continued dominance of the consumer broadband market as well as the
potential for consolidation activity will drive shares. Our rating remains Buy.
All stocks were priced after market close on September 27, 1999.
>



To: im a survivor who wrote (15835)10/2/1999 5:16:00 PM
From: Educator  Respond to of 29970
 
Hi KG4-

Would you rather have those 18 million sets of eyeballs with you, or against you?

At first, I thought I wanted those eyeballs too. Now, I'm not so sure. Remember...the great Ah said that competition was good. It will keep ATHM on its toes. Besides, I believe that speed access will become (if not now, in the future) the most important thing. If people haven't figured that out yet, they will. ATHM has that. My testimonial says it is important, more so than content. I wouldn't go back to AOL and its popup ads for all the tea in China. And I like tea! There were many things about AOL that I did like and miss. However, it wasn't anything compared to speed. Lately, my side business depends on this speed. The content will come.

I would not bet against AOL in this forum. They have the content, they have the customers, they have the know how and they have high speed access.

What high speed access? Are you talking about DSL? I live in an area of 500,000 people. No AOL high speed access here. Unless they are keeping it a big secret. Besides, DSL has its own problems. From what I've read, cable has it beat. I don't care to debate that issue. AOL still doesn't have their foot in the "high speed access" door. Hell...they're not even in the same neighborhood. I believe they need the deal more than ATHM.

You said that AOL adds an initial customer base of over 18 million right now. Not true. ATHM is not available to the 18 million AOL subscribers. In time, yes, but not as we type. Besides, last I heard 65% of ATHM subscribers switched from AOL. I was one of them. Several of my friends are doing the same.

Wonder why excite is like the stepchild nobody wants...uness it is pared with an aol or yahoo ???

I am not convinced Excite is all that wonderful, but I do use and very much enjoy "voice chat." That avenue is saving me some bucks as I frequently talk to my dad. In fact, we talked just this morning.

I am long both ATHM and AOL. I feel a deal will be done with AOL, because frankly, it makes sense, and both parties want what the others have, and both know, the other will get what they want over a long period of time, so they would be wiser to suck up the ego's and do a deal now.

Many ATHM longs feel that ATHM will succeed with or without AOL. We didn't build our dreams on any $50-$60 offer from AOL or anyone else. There are many that bought during ATHM's climb in the early spring. How do you think they would feel about a deal like this? That offer wouldn't even bring them back to their cost basis, and I know two such people. I had hopes of many splits and a 10-100 maybe even 1,000 times return on my investment. Do you think I will get that with AOL shares? I don't think so. It has had its run. Sure, it will continue to do well. But I felt the future was brighter with a "pure ATHM play." The rumors of a possible deal would throw only peanuts to ATHM shareholders. Not much consolation for still being 50% or so off its 1999 high. We want diamonds thrown at us.

If anyone's stock is offered in exchange for ATHM, I will sell. I have an over-weighting in this company, and wouldn't gamble it on any other horse.

These are just my thoughts. I am thinking out loud on this. The whole deal is taking me on a path other than the yellow brick road, and I am kind of bummed.

I owned AOL until last week. I would still feel the same if it were in my portfolio now. It only amounted to 1/10 the amount of money I have invested in ATHM.

BTW, I like how you disagree and show class doing it.

Take care,
Ed




To: im a survivor who wrote (15835)10/2/1999 8:21:00 PM
From: E. Davies  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 29970
 
Would you rather have those 18 million sets of eyeballs with you, or against you ?
<<E@home has the potential to easily gain market and surpass aol with sub numbers over time. >>
You say "over time". You must be talking about Y3K.


One thing that you forget is in the battle for subscribers is that AOL is available to *anyone* for only $9.95/month. AOL's value is in its content. Its not exactly well known for being a quality ISP. Some will insist on keeping AOL when they move to broadband, some will not. The percentage is of course a source of big debate.

For those who insist on keeping AOL it all becomes an issue of price and bundling. AOL offers dial up ISP for an additional $12, DSL for an additional $30-$40 (when they finally get to offering it). @home also will offer cable for an additional $30-$40, but this price will vary with bundling with cable TV and telephony.

It is not at all a simple thing to determine, but one thing is clear to me is that the law of numbers is not on the side of AOL right now. Some people (like Educator) will choose @home broadband simply because AOL DSL does not cover their area. Some people will pick cable over DSL as the ISP for price/performance reasons.

Its not at all hard to imagine the ATHM/AOL split (in terms of who provides the ISP) reaching 50/50 in say 10-15 years. 50/50 would be a huge win for @home and a huge loss for AOL. Of course I expect other ISP's as well, actually it would be more like 35/35/30 where the 30% is everyone else.

Would it be better if AOL used @home to provide ISP services? Someday yes. Right now it completely true that "As fast as it is available it sells". Not only is the marketing power of AOL not needed, even Excite has been told to turn off its marketing to limit demand.

Like most everyone else I'd rather see ATHM and AOL work together rather than apart. The single biggest reason is that AOL popularizing broadband might actually keep the subscription prices higher. So far I have just not been able to imagine a situation that both sides can agree is fair.
Eric



To: im a survivor who wrote (15835)10/3/1999 11:27:00 AM
From: Solid  Respond to of 29970
 
KG4, <I could spend all day long going over "what AOL brings to the table"...if you don't know by now, it is a very, very moot point. I feel a deal will be done with AOL, because frankly, it makes sense, and both parties want what the others have, and both know, the other will get what they want over a long period of time, so they would be wiser to suck up the ego's and do a deal now.>

Very cool. I suppose I could muster a lengthy dissertation myself. Its been done numerous times here already as you note. My point is simple, I do not own AOL, I have no vested interest in seeing it marry ATHM as many others may. In my opinion, ATHM, independent of AOL, has the marbles in place to do the job. From Eric's post quoting. thestreet.com:

<Amidst the swirling rumors, Stevens, Excite@Home's executive vice president for corporate business development, toils away as the company's deal-maker. Though he's not nearly as well known as Jermoluk or George Bell, the company's president, Stevens is arguably Excite@Home's most important behind-the-scenes player, engineering a partnership-cum-investment strategy designed to maintain the company's position as the dominant broadband player.

Stevens, as well as other officials at Excite@Home, declined to talk about the speculation of a sale of part or all of the company. But if anyone can stabilize this rocking boat, it's probably him. An elite Silicon Valley lawyer/businessman, Stevens cuts deals that assist in creating a compelling mix of content and services on the Excite portal, a task that will help the company take on America Online (AOL:NYSE) rather than being taken out by it.

Far from being a bad fit, the hybrid of content and high-speed Net access is what sets Excite@Home apart from its rivals, Stevens says. "We're the only ones with a clear strategy," he says. "Which applications are going to be the killer applications in the first generation of the broadband future? We'll probably choose those.">

So I don't think AOL has what athm needs, other then being established as one of the first and being the present biggest ISP. In time athm has the potential to gain it for itself.

Management is a key. I like Mr. Stevens. Read the whole article to see a little more of who this guy is. He has vision. The reality is that with mega dollars, from many sources will they let him play it into fruition? While we debate, speculate, and pontificate, time will tell.

I'm willing to bet on them over time. I would rather not see them give away the deed to the farm. About a week ago I posted a response, I think to Wendell, who posted about a radio WS interview covering ATHM. In it the analyst used figures of 7-10 million subs for athm by 2003, not y3k. Without an AOL marriage.

In all likely hood something significant may happen soon with merger/buyout hysteria and internal strife with major shareholders..and so it may go. In my opinion it may not be the best and is certainly not the only way to go, over time.

A last thought, years ago I was going to buy AOL. It first came on and had a little run. So many analysts and others negative hyped it as an over priced balloon built on sheer hype and fool hearty promise I stayed away. Foolish.

I 'see' the promise of athm with experiential clarity and like the promise.

<Good Luck. Differing views make for interesting conversation, especially when both views are hoping for the same end results>

Was it Emerson, 'It is good to build castles in the sky. Now put foundations under them.'

We each see different blueprints and 'essential contractors'.

It's good to hash out.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Solid

ps- if interested to save the search for Stevens:

Erick Hachenburg, Pogo's CEO, can attest to Stevens' negotiating skills. In deal talks with Pogo, Stevens stressed Excite@Home's desire to get access to all of the games in development at Pogo. But Hachenburg was reluctant to agree, especially since his company had yet to launch its own Web site. Ultimately, Stevens convinced Pogo that its distribution network was its critical asset, not its Web site, and Pogo gave Excite@Home what it wanted.

"He forced the issue," recalls Hachenburg. "It was his argument that we eventually adopted as our internal policy."

Go West (Again), Young Man
A Cupertino, Calif., native, Stevens is a quintessential Valley product, a child of the "blue sky" generation in California that built a middle-class utopia on the back of the military-industrial economy. During high school, he wore a calculator on his belt. He entered Santa Clara University already four courses short of a bachelor's degree in math. He graduated in 1979, when he was just 20, and took a job with a defense contractor as an engineer, following in the footsteps of his father, who worked for 35 years at GTE Sylvania.

Dissatisfied, Stevens soon entered Northwestern University School of Law on a full scholarship. Upon graduation, he returned to Palo Alto and convinced Fenwick & West's Gordon Davidson, now the firm's chairman, to hire him. An expert in law and technology in the Valley's early days, Stevens rose quickly through the firm's ranks and represented a roster of blue-chip clients such as Excite, Oracle (ORCL:Nasdaq) and Electronic Arts (ERTS:Nasdaq).

So successful was Stevens that he was pegged as a successor to Davidson before Excite's Bell pulled him aside one evening -- while the two were in the final throes of negotiating Excite's $7 billion merger with @Home -- and offered Stevens the about-to-be-merged company's position of chief deal-maker. Now, at Excite@Home, Stevens is Davidson's biggest client.

"He's very quick on his feet, very creative," Davidson says of Stevens. "The thing that really shines through is his intellect. You can see that he thinks two or three moves ahead."

Tom Gimple, CEO of tickets.com, says he appreciated Stevens' rare combination of business and legal experience when the two were cutting a deal. Gimple is also one of several people who praises Stevens' pragmatism and his ability to keep his eye on the big picture and not let a deal get dragged down by the details.

"Mark [has] a genuine interest in getting a deal done quickly," says Gimple. "In the Internet space, time kills a deal. Mark is very conscious of that, and he tries to move very quickly. That's not something we find with people we sit down with."