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To: TheOldGuy who wrote (140)	10/2/1999 8:02:00 PM
From: Charlie Smith	Respond to of 164

TOG: I've heard from several experienced carpenters that plastic is a royal (pun intended) pain to work with. To a person, they prefer the TREX composite because it behaves like wood. Maybe they're just Luddites, but steel studs haven't caught on for the same reason. Nonetheless, it may take longer for USPL to gain share if this attitude is prevalent. Charlie

To: TheOldGuy who wrote (140)	10/5/1999 2:32:00 PM
From: Keiko	Respond to of 164

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To: TheOldGuy who wrote (140)	10/6/1999 3:14:00 PM
From: Bill/WA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 164

TOG, Couldn't help respond to your deck thoughts. Was born & raised in Palm Bch county. Was a gen. contractor for 22 yrs & before that my Dad owned Bill's Sailfish Marina on Singer Is. Moved to WA state to get out of the sun, it plays hell on your body as well as wood!! Suggestions - whether you use wood or plastic, tell the contractor you want the product screwed to the joists w/ galv. screws. If plastic is used its best to pre-drill the holes, screws should penetrate the joist at least as deep as the thickness of the decking material. This will definitely increase the cost of the deck (& the contractor might not want to do this) but a few years down the road you'll appreciate doing it. If you do use nails, under NO circumstance let them use a pneumatic nail gun. Nail guns drive the nail with one quick blow to the nail & in alot of cases will not bring the deck material tight to the joist. When we have used nails on decks on or near salt water, we always used ring-shanked stainless steel nails. There are a # of treatments for PT wood (above ground, ground contact, underwater, etc.). Treatment is designated in decimals (.22, .44, etc) & in the South is almost exclusively southern pine. The sun does amazing things to this wood ;-) even #1 dense grade (when I moved to the NWest I was surprised to find they use hemlock & the treatment is only on the surface of the wood). With the correct treatment, your PT wood may contact the ground. Securing the post to your conc. pads (or piers) will be determined by your local bldg. codes (in PB county we had to pour 3'x3'x10" conc. pads). Sorry to ramble, hope this helps, Bill/WA (TheOldCarpenter)

To: TheOldGuy who wrote (140)	10/7/1999 1:40:00 PM
From: Mesaba	Respond to of 164

I think if I were to build my own deck I'd still have a professional come and pour the footings. From what I've seen you pour footings, then stick in the 4x4, then fill the rest of it up with cement so, once again, no wood is touching the ground but 33% of the full 4x4 length (50% of the above ground length) is beneath the ground. Those terraced decks are beautiful but they also have a lot of wasted space and you can EASILY get talked into something that is was too big for your needs.