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To: Dayuhan who wrote (56830)	10/3/1999 10:01:00 AM
From: nihil	Respond to of 108807

A kick in the nuts ... That's what thugs have always believed, but the fact is that hundreds of millions of people have lived their lives under coercion and suffering (including flogging and many kicks in the nuts and even execution) without surrendering their beliefs to others. Many of them have given up, but some haven't. I agree with you that stoicism and Buddhism and the rest of those mindsets are just a bunch of words --- but I know from experience that if one takes control of his own emotions that he can maintain his equanamity in the face of pain. I think Epictetus is the best single school, but the history of Christian and heretical martyrs is another history of such events. The refusal to recant under torture has nothing to do IMO with the truth of the belief but with the indomitable (and trained) human will. I have been in a prison where the guards had this choice: beat this man to death or stop, because he will not give in to you. As e. e. cummings wrote: "there is some shit i will not eat!"