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To: Perry who wrote (7259)10/3/1999 6:22:00 PM
From: Art Bechhoefer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 60323
 
Many features of flash memory are covered by patents. Many, if not most of the patents are held either by SanDisk or its president, Harari. New patents are being granted regularly. In addition, a second generation of flash memories that use encryption to prevent unauthorized copying are being developed, with SanDisk again having an important, though not exclusive place in this area. There are many characteristics about the PROCESS of reading and writing that are patentable. It is likely that some of the less sophisticated flash memory designs will become commodities in a few more years. If there is a parallel here with other kinds of chips, the parallel would be closer to ASICS instead of DRAMS.



To: Perry who wrote (7259)10/4/1999 8:00:00 AM
From: Ausdauer  Respond to of 60323
 
Perry,

Regarding "commodity" potential for CF...

It is a delicate and important question which I do not wish to address until after the release of earnings on 13OCT99.

Please read this post from Yahoo. I think it is important to all SNDK shareholders.

messages.yahoo.com

Ausdauer



To: Perry who wrote (7259)10/4/1999 8:29:00 AM
From: Ausdauer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 60323
 
Perry,

The jury isn't out yet as to whether CompactFlash has reached "commodity" status.
I think we fall somewhere between a completely open consortium-based architecture and an entirely proprietary architecture (domination-based).

It may be so by design.

This is why I feel that way.

"Commodity versus Commoditization"

Semiconductors fall into the category of enabling technologies. As such, these products
commoditize extremely well and migrate far afield from the original point of introduction.
This is referred to as a "network effect". In contrast, items such as application software
are non-enabling and are forced to interact with an infrastructure of common enabling
technologies. Applications software does not commoditize well and possess a limited
capactiy to network. The ability to network successfully on several platforms is what
Moore refers to as "commoditization". It is distinct from the less appealing term,
"commodity", which we frequently associate with high volume, low margin,
run-of-the-mill items such as pork bellies and DRAM memory.

In situations where a defacto standard does not develop, or where standards are
created by a consortium of vendors in a non-proprietary fashion the risk of producing a
commodity rather than creating commoditization in the market place is high. Examples of
this type of situation include the current desktop PC market, competition between
phone modem producers, and the cellular telephone market.

Proprietary Open Architectures

The most stringent definition of a proprietary and open architecture is one that requires
control be taken by a single vendor (proprietary) with a visible set of specifications that
allow other vendors to build to these specifications (an open architecture). Once deeply
entrenched in this open architecture it becomes extremely difficult to escape from it or to
dethrone it. The adoption of a single architecture also helps to remove bottlenecks to
growth.

"The most rapidly proliferating architectures have proved to be proprietary and
open."

The notion of control, unthrottled market domination and creation of a sole vendor
is, in my opinion, distasteful. I calls to mind such related concepts as anti-competitive
spirit, intentional destruction of competitors, price fixing, and the like. It also risks the
stagnation of further development of the core specifications unless done so to throw
competitors off balance. This seems to be less than a healthy environment for innovation.
Some will contend that such priviledges are owed to the company able to engineer a
dominant, proprietary standard. This may be true, yet it also creates a great deal of
animosity. The recent investigations on such Gorillas as Intel and Microsoft underscore
the distaste that many harbor for such giants.

The goal of a consortium, as I mentioned above, is to create a market enviroment similar
to a proprietary, open architecture which can be applied to a given discontinuous
innovation. It represents a more calculated election or creation of a defacto standard
and, in essence, eliminates the possibility of dominant Gorilla. It also leads us to a more
royal existence. An existence with Kings, Princes and Serfs. It is the type of
environment that engenders much less in the way of scrutiny, animosity and distaste. It is
a more politically correct form of "socialistic" capitalism or a collective that rewards
ingenuity and innovation, offers outstanding value to the consumer, encourages continual
improvement and upgrading while at the same time avoiding the discontent common to
Gorilla markets. It is this type of arrangement that defines SanDisk's approach to the
flash memory market.

The CompactFlash Association
compactflash.org

In a stroke of genius in 1995, Dr. Eli Harari, a respected innovator in the field of flash
memory and President & CEO of SanDisk Corportation, offered the fruit of his labor,
the concept of the CompactFlash card, as an open standard so as to guarantee the
continued improvement and refinement of this enabling technology
(http://www.compactflash.org/faqs/faq.htm#What_is).

The goals of the CompactFlash Association are well defined:

The CompactFlash Association is a non-profit, mutual-benefit corporation that
promotes adoption of CompactFlash as a worldwide, ultra-small, removable
storage standard for capturing and transporting digital data, audio and images.
The CFA, which makes the CompactFlash and CF(logo) trademarks and
CompactFlash Technical Specification available royalty-free to member
companies, is headquartered in Palo Alto, CA.

The goals of the CFA are to promote and encourage the worldwide adoption of
CompactFlash technology as an open industry standard. The association's
primary objectives are to drive alternate-source availability; to drive acceptance
of the CF specification as an industry standard across platforms and markets
internationally; to ensure compatibility for users of CF products, and to evolve
the approved CF standard over time while ensuring backward compatibility.

At the point in time the CFA was forming, the first design-ins for CompactFlash in the
consumer electronics market were just emerging. And rather than risk the intrusion of an
inferior solution to the market demand for rugged, non-volatile, portable memory (or, as
Moore would contend, the "desperate" selection of market Gorilla), Dr. Harari unveiled
the functionality of CompactFlash in its entirety, solicited the participation of established
market leaders (network participants) and gambled on the emergence of CompactFlash
as the defacto standard. In my opinion, this was done to "commoditize" CompactFlash
and deeply seat the technology in the digital camera market. In doing so it facilitated the
recognition of the attributes of CompactFlash, insured the presence of "second sources"
to consumers and OEM's, and eliminated the stigma of "anti-competitive behavior"
common to industry Gorillas such as Intel and Microsoft.

SanDisk and the CompactFlash association represent a new breed living in a terrain
somewhere between the restrictive, proprietary and open architectures of today's
gorillas and the gorilla-less domain of a consortium. It is a company of the new
millenium.

Ausdauer



To: Perry who wrote (7259)10/4/1999 6:59:00 PM
From: Ausdauer  Respond to of 60323
 
Perry,

Ever since I read about Sandisk in SmartMoney magazine, I have been interested in buying some SanDisk. However, since I have totally missed the phenomanal rise I am a little weary to get in even at these lower prices. My only major concern is that CF will become a comodity product like DRAM. I suppose that will eventually happen but my concern is that it has already taken place. Can anyone address this question?

I still hold this as one of the most important developments for this company since I bought my first SanDisk shares in April of 1998.

SANDISK AND SST SIGN PATENT CROSS-LICENSING AGREEMENT FOR FLASH CARD PRODUCTS

SUNNYVALE, CA, July 8, 1998 – SanDisk Corporation (SNDK:NASDAQ) and SST (Silicon Storage Technology, Inc.)
(SSTI:NASDAQ) today announced that they have signed a patent cross-licensing agreement for flash card products.

Under the agreement, SanDisk and SST have licensed each other's patents covering the design and manufacture of flash card products, giving both companies worldwide rights to use those patents. Specific terms of the agreement are confidential.

Eli Harari, SanDisk president and CEO, said, "We are very happy to announce this patent cross-licensing agreement with Silicon Storage Technology, an innovative, cutting-edge company in the flash card market. This is SanDisk's first card-level patent cross-licensing agreement and we expect that similar card-level agreements will be signed later with other flash card companies. This agreement between SanDisk and SST will provide added impetus to the growth of the flash data storage market and is a further confirmation of the fundamental value of SanDisk's intellectual property patents in this rapidly growing flash card market."

Bing Yeh, president and CEO of SST, said, "This agreement allows each of our companies to respect the technology contributions of the other and results in increased freedom to design and manufacture new products without the threat of patent infringement. This will provide both companies with a level playing field on which to compete. We are very pleased to have established this cross-license relationship with SanDisk. This is an excellent agreement for both companies."

SanDisk Corporation, the world's largest supplier of flash data storage products, designs, manufactures and markets industry-standard, solid-state data, digital imaging and audio storage products using its patented, high density flash memory and controller technology. SanDisk is based in Sunnyvale, CA.

The matters discussed in this news release contain forward looking statements that are subject to certain risks and uncertainties as described under the caption "Risk Factors" in SanDisk's annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company assumes no obligation to update the information in this release.

Headquartered in Sunnyvale, CA, SST (SSTI:NASDAQ) designs, manufactures and markets low-cost, high-quality flash memory components for the computer, communications and consumer markets. Current product families include single-power supply (5.0V-only, 3.0V-only or 2.7V-only), small erase-block flash memory components as well as two-power supply MTP (Many-Time Programmable) flash products. SST is also designing products for the mass storage and flash embedded controller markets. All SST memory components products are based on patented, proprietary SuperFlash technology. SST offers this technology for embedded applications through its manufacturing partners and technology licensees Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. Ltd. (TSMC), Samsung Electronics Co. Ltd., Sanyo Electric Co. Ltd., and Seiko Epson Corp.

Except for the historical information contained herein, this news release contains forward-looking statements that involve risks and uncertainties. These risks may include timely development, acceptance and pricing of new products, the terms and conditions associated with licensees' royalty payments, the impact of competititive products and pricing, and general economic conditions as they affect SST's customers, as well as other risks detailed from time to time in the company's SEC reports, including the report on Form 10-K for the year ended Dec. 31, 1997.

For more information about SST and the company's comprehensive list of product offerings, please call 1-800/SST-CHIP or 1-888/221-1178 (North America) or 1-732/544-2873 (International) for SST's literature fax-on-demand service. Information can also be requested via email to sfoster@ssti.com or through SST's website at ssti.com. SST is located at 1171 Sonora Court, Sunnyvale, CA; telephone: 408/735-9110; fax: 408/735-9036.

The SST logo and SuperFlash are registered trademarks of SST. MTP is a trademark of SST.

All other trademarks or registered trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

Ausdauer
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