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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (27411)	10/3/1999 10:25:00 PM
From: Jamey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

<<"I would like to start this discussion by showing that despite Messianic Judaism?s Christianness, it is unquestionably Jewish. As far as religious observance they are "Orthodox." Reform Jews are goyim compared to Messianic practice.">>>Alan Alan, if this means that you practice the traditions of the Jewish religion, then you are not living or upholding any Christian precepts such as saved by grace, but instead are attempting to gain Heaven by the works doctrine of the dead Jewish religion. If, as you say, you believe in Christ, then what use is it to be kosher and follow Jewish rules? Anyone circumcised of the heart and not of the law is accepted in the brotherhood of Christ and an inheritor of the bloodline of Abraham. Santiago

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (27411)	10/4/1999 1:58:00 PM
From: PROLIFE	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

God did not intend to create Christianity, and He certainly did not do so through His Messiah nor through His Apostles (Paul, etc.). It is only by historical accidents (Bar Kokhba incident, etc.) that Christianity (i.e. those that believed that Y?shua was the Messiah) branched off from Judaism. .........Without another body to give their group structure, Christianity set out to establish its own religion. This has to be one of the most anti-christ statements I have seen. I hope this does not come from anyone that believes he is a true follower of Christ.