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To: sea_biscuit who wrote (7746)10/5/1999 8:57:00 AM
From: Cynic 2005  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12475
 
As I have said earlier, it is none of my business in what you want to believe in. In fact I could care less. My point is that OJ may have been acquitted, but he is a killer in many people's mind. Hitler may not have given a direct order to persecute Jews, but he is a mad man and he was responsible for halocaust - again that is according to many people's belief.

I will let you have the last word.



To: sea_biscuit who wrote (7746)10/5/1999 9:30:00 AM
From: JPR  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12475
 
nytimes.com
8 Killed in London Train Accident

DIPY, R U going to blame the incompetent, bigoted BJP, VHP, RSS for this accident? Any death anywhere hurts me but ......
Or R U going to blame the Indians in UK: to paraphrase Prince Phillip: an Indian must have put the bad fuse
Remember U blamed the incompetent Indians (for train accident in India) who can't run the railways built by the British


Filed at 8:40 a.m. EDT

By The Associated Press

LONDON (AP) -- Two packed commuter trains collided near London's
Paddington Station during the height of the morning rush hour today,
killing eight people and injuring at least 160.


Several cars derailed in the residential Ladbroke Grove area of west
London. ``It is a tangled and difficult scene,' Deputy Police
Commissioner Andy Trotter said.

Passenger Stuart Allen said the crash ``almost felt like a dream.'

``I was thinking, `God, please don't let me die,' ' he said. ``You've got
flames. You've got smoke. You've got a big bang. You've just got to
think the worst.'

British Transport Police said eight people were known dead and at least
160 injured. Authorities said 124 people had been taken to hospitals, 18
of them with severe injuries.

Nearly five hours after the 8:11 a.m. crash, rescuers struggled with the
tangled wreckage of one car where three people remained trapped and
in serious condition, police said. They were being given painkillers and
fluids, said Gareth Davies, a doctor working at the scene.

Ambulance and fire crews, police and rail workers swarmed around the
overturned and twisted rail cars for hours, locating and freeing
passengers.

Other passengers, some with cuts and bruises, said they were also able
to help people out of overturned cars. Emergency officials were treating
the injured at a supermarket near the crash scene.

``There were really badly hurt people, badly burned people. Some
people have been impaled by seats,' passenger Amelia Bane said.

The collision involving the two mainline trains took place two miles west
of Paddington Station, less than a mile north of Notting Hill.

Mark Palmer said he was in the street nearby when he heard a ``huge
explosion lasting for about 15 seconds, followed by billowing smoke.'

He said one of the engines and one of the train cars were burned and
lying on their sides. Many of the other carriages had jackknifed.

``It looks just horrendous. Rescuers are pulling people out of the
wreckage. There are dozens of ambulances and fire engines,' he said.

BBC Radio reporter Phil Longman, who also was on one of the trains,
said, ``There was an initial bang and the train seemed to leap in the air.'

``There was another bang and I was flung forward and I saw a piece of
wreckage to the side of the window. ... I thought the wreckage was
going to come through the window,' Longman said.

``The guard came on the Tannoy (speaker system) and told people to
walk to the back of the train. You could hear him calling out for help
from the emergency services. He said `major emergency, major
emergency.' '

A spokesman for First Great Western Trains said the accident involved
its high-speed service from Cheltenham, in western England, and a
Thames Trains service outbound to Bedwyn, Wiltshire, west of London.

The accident happened on the same stretch of line as the Southall rail
crash in September 1997, in which seven people died and 150 were
injured.

Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott announced a public inquiry into the
crash after visiting the scene.

Mark Rogers said he was reading a book on one of the trains when the
crash occurred.

``I found myself crashing into the person opposite me,' he said. ``The
train was going over and over and over and people were thrown onto the
floor.'

Longman said, ``There are a number of people I think fairly seriously
injured on my side of the track. A lot of people are sitting stunned.'

One engine and a front car were on their sides, he said, and another was
pointing at the sky.

``There was a fire by the track side which seemed to be very hot and
people were getting fairly worried about it,' Longman said.

The passengers panicked when they could not get the doors open, but
Longman said he broke a window with an emergency hammer. The
passengers then began lowering women and the elderly to the track.

Asked if it was a head-on crash, Longman said: ``I understand from
hearing other people that the Thames Train was not quite head-on.

``I think we hit on an angle, on the side of the Thames Train,' he said.

Witness Emma Rippon told BBC radio she had spoken to one man who
managed to escape from the wreckage.

``He said he was standing in the front carriage and suddenly it slowed a
little bit and then (there was) a big explosion. A fire started immediately,
and the smoke was unbelievable,' she said.