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To: Zoltan! who wrote (57285)10/6/1999 8:24:00 PM
From: E  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 108807
 
Why do you bother, Zoltan?

Shamir and Wiesenthal, separately, were told the romantic, self dramatizing truth (he liked those; recall how deprived he'd been of making love to his wife during the war) that Reagan had himself photographed the death camps. So was Rabbi Hier, but after calls from the White House, he, alone of the three, called Reagan's statements as, rather than untruths, "rhetorical excess."

You choose to believe the spin of an embarrassed White House. What happened is entirely obvious. I am embarrassed for you.

And you say, also, that Reagan's clear and unequivocal statement that although hecklers in the World Parliament had NOT been to Nicaragua, he HAD been there, is a "rhetorical device"?

I'm pleased you admit this untruth has been reported accurately. I guess the entire World Parliament can't be accused of a poor command of English that caused a misunderstanding on their part.

I am, really, kinda shocked that you think a lie like this, which claims credit he hasn't earned, is an acceptable rhetorical device. It can't help but make one wonder about the standard of veracity in your own assertions. But if you assure me it is higher than President Reagan's was, I will accept this.

Do you?

FYI:

Here's Lou Cannon, Reagan's previous biographer:

"... Reagan who has this marvelous ability to tell something that is factually not true and make himself believe it's the truth... "

I don't see this ability as "marvelous," but there are those who do, and did.

[EDIT: Just went to the next post in my InBox, and found a link from Cobe (Thanks, Cobe), containing this, in regard to Reagan's, er, "rhetorical devices":

<<<George Shultz wrote in his memoirs in 1993 that
Ronald Reagan got a lot of bad advice as president
but also deceived himself "almost knowingly" about
facts that didn't suit him. >>>