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To: MNI who wrote (14814)10/6/1999 10:03:00 AM
From: MNI  Respond to of 17770
 
Berlin state election projections:

the most likely result for the imminent (Sunday) election of the Berlin state parliament is 'nothing new in Berlin'. The latest polls are already 10 days old, but didn't show much movement in the previous six weeks.

One poll predicts:
38% CDU
20% SPD
16% PDS
11% Greens (www.politik-digital.de)
liberals below 5% threshold
right radicals not projected

This outcome would surely lead to a revival of the current CDU-SPD coalition with reinforced CDU leadership and mayor E. Diepgen, and awkard losses of the SPD are already included. Schroeder has already foresaken Berlin state elections by announcing even directly after the Saxonia elections that he expected a renewed shape of the SPD after the party conventions in mid-December (the so-called Father Christmas effect).

What are possible sensations?
1. A Haider effect would push down CDU. It would be actually a Stoiber effect; Stoibers addressing of Haider may have deleted the credibility
of CDUs liberality. Even Stoiber of CSU (Bavarian) may have had that in mind: to embarass some Prussians would make him even more popular in Bavaria.
2. A Lafontaine/Vogel effect could push down SPD: Jochen Vogel (SPD mainstream) (younger brother of Bernhard Vogel, CDU, the Minister Pres. of Thuringia) joined in Lafontaine's harsh criticism of "Schroeder's duplicity" yesterday.
3. a combined effect that would lead to less than an absolute majority of
CDU+SPD in the parliament is unlikely, as it would require several
small parties to proceed to parliament. As a strange side effect in that case SPD < Greens would most probably hold, and a CDU+Greens,
or a black+red+green government were among the options considered. A different, and maybe more logical scheme would be
red+red+green. Everything discussed here seems unlikely however.

The impending CDU+SPD coalition would mirror the SPD+CDU coalition of surrounding Brandenburg which would probably enhance the projected fusion of both states.

Regards MNI.



To: MNI who wrote (14814)10/6/1999 2:59:00 PM
From: Yaacov  Respond to of 17770
 
. 20,000 soviet troops plus 1000 tanks of the crasnaya armiya were to""

I do remember that occasion! There were East Germans kids with flowers saying good-by to departing Soviet troops! Those tanks were withdrawn because they were T-55's(!!) and were sold to some third world country, probably Angola! They were replaced by rapid firing new tanks that did not need to stop to fire! gg