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To: Paul Engel who wrote (89594)	10/6/1999 4:00:00 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

go back and read the post again. The Athlon numbers you quote were old numbers with Intel's compiler optimized for PII/III. The new Athlon numbers are at the bottom for 700 Mhz - a speed grade that Intel does not ship, I might add.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (89594)	10/6/1999 4:17:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "If true - and I'm not staking any claim to those numbers - that would put the Coppermine AHEAD of the AthFlop. - in Integer AND Floating point." I don't know if these are official Intel released numbers so I can't comment on them being authentic, but if true, it would move CuMine as far ahead of Athlon as Athlon has been ahead of PIII to date. In AMD's own terms, it's a blowaway! EP

To: Paul Engel who wrote (89594)	10/6/1999 7:08:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul - RE: "AMD's benchmarks show a 600 MHz Athflop with specint_base 27.5 vs. the 29 for the "JC reported" Intel Coppermine ..... and AthLoff specfp_base of 22 vs 25 for the "JC reported" Intel Coppermine ." Those Athlon numbers are from a non-Athlon optimized compiler. The estimates given yesterday show a glimpse of what will come. If those estimates hold up, the Athlon (w/266 bus) w/an optimized compiler will BLOW AWAY "E" in SPEC scores. And those Athlon scores are NOT with a larger or faster cache than the current Athlon, per JC's talk with an AMD person.