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To: Process Boy who wrote (89614)	10/6/1999 7:47:00 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

PB, <It looks like Coppermine will compete quite well with a "seventh generation core". I wonder what Willamette will do? > I am not sure what you and Paul are talking about. From Kash's post on the AMD thread, looks like Tench is confirming JC's rumored CuMine spec numbers. If that is true, here is what you have: CuMine 600: Specint - 29; Specfp - 25 Athlon Pro 700: Specint - 37; Specfp - 42 The miss penalty in CuMine will increase as core speeds ramp because of the lower hit rates due to smaller cache. So, expect the comparisons to get more in favor of Athlon as speeds ramp up. Athlon doesn't even have a on die cache, yet..... And, of course, we haven't factored in the potential MHz advantage. Chuck

To: Process Boy who wrote (89614)	10/7/1999 12:04:00 AM
From: Saturn V	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Process Boy .Ref <any thoughts how Cascades products would take advantage of these features? I.e., workstation performance.> Cascades with its super large L2 Cache, will also benefit a lot on memory intensive and integer benchmarks. I expect Cascades to outdo K-7 for such applications and for the critical server marketplace. However for floating point, the picture may be muddled. For non-memory intensive floating point benchmarks, the Extra Floating Point Unit may give K-7 an edge , for equivalent MHz. So for superiority on all benchmarks,Intel will have to resort to process optimization or the next generation process to push the Mhz further than AMD. Intel has sucessfuly concealed Coppermine's potential performance, and may have surprised AMD. But it may also have hurt itself. The K-7 infrastructure has gained more momentum than it should have. Since Intel is playing its cards close to its chest, AMD zealots may be surprised if the 0.13 micron process and Willamette show up sooner than Charles R expects. As a matter of fact Charles R, should break off his association with his friends and sources within Intel. They have caused him great pain where it hurts most. In his pocketbook !