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To: Zoltan! who wrote (57529)	10/7/1999 8:29:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Zolt, I have refrained from saying anything because I considered the smooth insults against those of us who support Reagan provocation enough, and because we are buds. But you are going overboard with the denunciation by this time. I know it is probably futile, but perhaps you should take a breath, and exercise more restraint, if only to more effectively advance your points.....

To: Zoltan! who wrote (57529)	10/7/1999 12:59:00 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<<<'By the time I got out of the army Air Corps, all I wanted to do -- in common with several million other veterans -- was to rest up awhile, make love to my wife, and come up refreshed...' >>> That is his statement. Look at it again. Of course he didn't say he had "served in the war in Europe." And of course I did not say he said that. He had, or some handler had, the sense not to make this claim explicitly, as he did the ad hoc false claim that he, unlike his opposition at the World Parliament, had been to Nicaragua. What he did, I pointed out to you earlier. Look at it again, Zoltan. You see nothing if all you are capable of seeing is explicit claims. But if you are also able, and willing, to perceive implication-- and not subtle implication, either-- you will see what his statement was intended to convey. If you can comprehend that a commercial advertisement that shows an actor in a white jacket extolling the merits of a product is attempting to exploit an association of white jackets with physicians (without ever making the explicit claim that the speaker is a physician), you are capable of seeing exactly what Reagan was doing in this statement: <<<'By the time I got out of the army Air Corps, all I wanted to do -- in common with several million other veterans -- was to rest up awhile, make love to my wife, and come up refreshed...' >>> I wrote earlier, and repeat: This shameless man who had spent the war in Hollywood, lying each night next to his wife in a comfortable bed, drew around himself as a decoration the cloak of sacrifice that had been earned with blood, sweat and tears, as the precisely accurate cliche goes, by the "several millions" he claimed to have so much "in common with." ...Reagan was trying to look like he, "IN COMMON WITH" the veterans who had NOT spent the war making love to their wives any damn time they wanted to between clean sheets and ten feet from a full fridge so they could have chocolate ice cream after and take a nice cool bath together, and if it was a Sunday, sleep late and read about the genuine horrific, and exhausting sacrifices made by OTHER veterans, not by him, OTHERS, with whom he has some goddam nerve claiming a commonality of sacrifice or need of rest or need to lie in bed with their wives, whose faces they might not have had clear any more were it not for muddy pictures in their pockets. ----------------- You say you detect a stench, Zoltan?