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To: donald sew who wrote (28851)10/8/1999 5:44:00 PM
From: HairBall  Respond to of 99985
 
donald sew: I have been tracking both rising wedges as well. Looking at the COMPX 30-Minute Semi-Log Chart the upper trend line of the rising wedge will start Monday at about 2911 and ascend through the end of the day to about 2934.

Regards,
LG



To: donald sew who wrote (28851)10/8/1999 6:04:00 PM
From: Fun-da-Mental#1  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 99985
 
S&P 500 is also about to touch its upper trendline. NYSE declines outnumbered advances even though today was an up day - this hasn't happened for a while. NH/NL is no longer improving. Down monday?

Fun-da-Mental



To: donald sew who wrote (28851)10/10/1999 1:09:00 AM
From: Lee Lichterman III  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 99985
 
Yes, I see that wedge. I am not trying to pick on GE but first even though it looks very strong right now, it has a wedge that is one of the more clear I have seen in a long time and then to top it off, I have the pasted story below about GE that I saved for Heinz since he loved IBM's scam so much before I knew he would love this.

Anyway, I am not sure what to think here. All my stuff is short term over bought and due for a pullback although I have already had a few negated signals myself so I too am moving to the bullish side. To add to that position oil stocks are dropping like rocks and I am geting bearish on the XAU at least at first glance this weekend. On the bearish side, I am seeing a drop off in volume in many individual stocks as the rallies try to continue and there many signs of distribution despite the fact that the rally is still young. I am not sure yet if it has to do with options expiration, or what.

Any way, here is that article from Barrons found on the gold thread.

Barron's:Market&GE Bubbles; WagePressures Part II
Barron's,OCTOBER 11, 1999

...... By universal agreement, General Electric is a great company, and its
peerless leader, Jack Welch, ranks as the paradigmatic corporate chieftain.
Both judgments were ringingly affirmed in a deft piece on GE in this magazine
early this year by Jon Laing.

And certainly, it's no sweat supplying the stirring lyrics for this vast chorus of
acclaim. Revenues in 1998 topped $100 billion for the first time. Year in, year
out, earnings post double-digit growth -- 13% seems to be the recent norm --
and this year, as the company's recent sparkling third-quarter profits report
underscored, that brilliant winning streak is being extended with gusto.

As all the world also knows, GE's stock has been a stellar performer. Over
the past year, it has shot up from 69 to an all-time high north of 125 on
Friday. Its market cap of $409 billion is second only to Microsoft's $485
billion. And its stock commands a price/earnings multiple of over 40 times last
year's earnings and 38 times this year's anticipated net.

All hail GE!

But, to be accurate, that exclamatory statement needs modification. For
there's at least one sentient being out there who stubbornly refuses to hail GE.
And, wouldn't you just know it, the non-hailer is an old friend with more
investment moxie than a bushel of analysts or a peck of portfolio managers.

The dissenter, an unfailingly charitable and courtly type, doesn't denigrate the
company's stature nor dispute Mr. Welch's considerable skills. But he does
take issue with the stuff of which the company's earnings gains have been
fashioned.

Part II

We should warn you, right here, that he suffers from an incurable malady
known as compulsive footnote fetish. He's an inveterate reader of the arcana
in financial documents. Let's indulge him, then, and study footnote 5 in GE's
last two annuals.

These come under the plain but pregnant heading of "Pension Benefits." (In
common with a number of corporations, GE's pension plan is awash with
funds, so much so that the company hasn't had to make a contribution to it
since 1987.)

Now, if you will, fix your gaze on a table in the footnote that bears the
legend "Pension plan income" in the 1997 annual and "Effect on operations"
in the 1998 version. The bottom line of this table shows "total pension plan
income" -- which is the amount, after all obligations and contingencies have
been provided for, the company took into the year's reported income.

In 1997, pension income chipped in $331 million of GE's total earnings of
$8.2 billion. In 1998, pension income accounted for $1.01 billion of the
company's total earnings of $9.3 billion.

Okay, let's suppose that there was no contribution to earnings in either year
(these are not, in any case, actual cash additions). Minus the noncash
contributions from the pension plans, GE's '97 net was $7.9 billion; its '98
net amounted to $8.3 billion.

On that basis, the rise in earnings last year was roughly $400 million, or
about 5.1%. And 5.1%, while respectable, is a good cut below the 13% the
company triumphantly reported.

GE's shares, as we observed, are selling at some 40 times last year's
earnings. Which is undeniably rich, but not unduly outrageous in this
euphoric market, given the company's many admirable qualities, not least of
which has been its ability to deliver 13% growth in earnings.

But that's the point: What kind of a multiple, our friend muses, would GE get
for earnings growth of 5%, as it would have had to report last year, except
for the help from pension income?

If you're generous and use the going multiple on the Dow of 25, the stock
would be selling at around $70 a share, and its total market value would
weigh in at $230 billion.

In other words, by this reckoning, the $685 million more in pension-plan
income GE took into earnings last year than it did in 1997 added a tidy
$179 billion to its market capitalization. Man, that's leveraging to a
fare-thee-well!

We think it's a shame so few people seem to have noticed this remarkable
addition to shareholder value. GE's bulking up earnings via its pension plan,
incidentally, is strictly according to the accounting rules.

But the investment implications are not especially favorable, holds our
critical friend. However legitimate or even mandated the contribution of
pension income to profits, investors can be finicky on occasion about the
value they place on earnings that aren't quite the right stuff -- that can't, for
instance, be used to buy favors for the Christmas party or pay dividends.

The substantial enhancement to earnings of pension-plan income, especially
when it turns a modest improvement into a brisk one as it did last year, in his
view makes GE's stock at least 50% overpriced. We should mention that he
most often errs on the conservative side.
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The memory lingers on. And so does the mischief.
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Both memory and mischief, in this case, are courtesy of Floyd. The havoc
the hurricane visited is still very much evident up and down the East Coast.
Last Friday, moreover, its after-effects were quite visible on the financial
front.

Confounding the consensus of Wall Street economists (which, it must be
said, is not among life's more difficult challenges), the number of new jobs
created in September was less than nothing -- it shrank, in fact, by 8,000.
To be fair, that meant the consensus estimate was off by only 230,000 or
so.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Floyd washed away 50,000
jobs. Which suggests that even without a hurricane, employment last month
was more than a tad disappointing. As our eminent colleague Gene Epstein
observes in his Economic Beat column this week, something doesn't
compute ("Counter Intuitive"). Message 11495239

The plain fact is that the Labor Department's statistics fly in the face of a
variety of other data and, equally important in our book, of anecdotal
evidence as well. None of the recent measures of manufacturing activity
square with the continuing decline in manufacturing employment reported by
Washington.

Similarly, the weekly tally on new claims for unemployment insurance also
runs counter to the weak showing in the monthly numbers prepared by the
BLS. On that score, the gathering strength in the purchasing managers'
surveys, most notably in the latest one, also encourages a skeptical view of
the official data.

For that matter, so does the outsized jump in hourly wages in September, to
$13.37, from $13.30 the previous month, hardly suggestive of a slowing job
market or, by implication, of a slowing economy. If there indeed is a drag on
hiring, it's more likely the result of how tough it is to find suitable workers
than it is reflective of a contracting need for them. The available pool of what
might be called peripheral candidates for employment contracted last month
by 200,000 from the year-earlier total.

We also have to wonder about the supposed drop of 9,000 service jobs,
including a decline in retailing employment. With consumers spending like
there's no tomorrow and retailers anxious about being caught short of goods
and help as they were same time last year, it's a little much to believe the
figures.

And, in fact, we simply don't.



To: donald sew who wrote (28851)10/10/1999 1:41:00 AM
From: set  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 99985
 
all: pattern game

shahar.nets.com:2000/GAME/patterngame.gif

This is an interesting one. Both of these should be very
familiar to everybody, but I wonder if putting them
together will throw anybody off.

As before, identify the two charts, or identify the
pattern itself, and make whatever comments you like.

Shahar