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To: Chris land who wrote (27713)10/11/1999 2:38:00 PM
From: mark silvers  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Chris,

Yes, it was to specifically serve the God of your own choosing.

I am amused at the irony inherent in the tone of your posts, and the subject being freedom of religious choice and avoidance of religious persecution:-)

Mark



To: Chris land who wrote (27713)10/11/1999 7:50:00 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Let's define who we're talking about. The founding fathers are those men who led the revolution against Great Britain and formed a new government in the late 1770's and 1780's. You know, Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, Jay, Franklin, Henry, etc.

The Pilgrims were members of a small group of religious dissenters (Brownists) who were recruited by the Plymouth Company as settlers. Clearly they wanted to serve God in their own way, though they had that right in Holland. But in Holland they feared their children and grandchildren would become Dutch, a very realistic probability. They came over on the Mayflower in 1620 if I remember correctly. They recorded ONE and only one post-harvest Thanksgiving after their first harvest, a one time event for a very special occasion. The Pilgrims didn't even celebrate Christmas - they weren't about to establish a new annual holiday of their own making. Plymouth Colony was eventually annexed against it's will by Massachusetts Bay Colony (i.e. the Puritans, a different and larger group of religious dissenters).



To: Chris land who wrote (27713)10/12/1999 9:15:00 AM
From: nihil  Respond to of 39621
 
Thanksgiving is an ancient Jewish and Christian custom. Jesus gave thanks before breaking bread.