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To: Zoltan! who wrote (58775)	10/12/1999 8:14:00 PM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 108807

Super post! JLA

To: Zoltan! who wrote (58775)	10/12/1999 9:01:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

How would you compare the Sandinistas to the Somoza dynasty? Don't you find it a little odd that we were able to pressure the Sandinistas into having an election, while we were never able to do the same to the Somozas? Don't you think that if we had tried pressuring the Somozas into holding elections, we might not have had to deal with the Sandinistas? Please don't mistake this for a "Reagan post"; it's not. I think Reagan handled that situation badly, but he didn't create it, any more than Carter created the problems in Iran. It always amazes me how we can pull a pendulum one way, and feign surprise when it swings to the other side.

To: Zoltan! who wrote (58775)	10/12/1999 11:14:00 PM
From: E	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Message 11526362 I just posted this to JLA. It seems apropos. I was not, I say again, a Sandinista supporter. Their policies were not run by me for approval. In his last days in office, Carter cancelled aid to Nicaragua. He was proceeding along a different line than Reagan would immediately take when he came into office. You write, tendentiously: <<<Of course, when the people did vote, none were more aghast than the liberals and the media, who were wrong all along.>>> Why don't you get it? I was happy when democratic processes removed the Sandinistas from power. (The government that assumed power, unfortunately, had as little interest in the costs to their own people of Reagan's illegal war as you do.) In Nicaragua the Sandinistas reacted to the new U.S. sanctions [Reagan's - E] by moving sharply left, tightening state controls, driving out private businesses, aligning themselves more closely with Cuba and the Soviet bloc, and embracing aid from radical terrorist third world regimes... the diplomatic historian Walter LaFeber aptly observed, "The Reagan administration sought to fight fire by pouring on gasoline. [from Haynes Johnson] BTW -- Why did you mention the Monroe Doctrine? Do you feel it has the status of Natural Law? What was your opinion of the Brezhnev Doctrine? What international body has ever recognized the Monroe Doctrine as anything other than a unilateral assertion of American primacy in countries to the south of us?