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To: MNI who wrote (3911)10/13/1999 9:20:00 AM
From: Tom Clarke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6418
 
I thought idiot came from the Greek idios, to go one's own way. You are the language master, I will defer to your opinion.



To: MNI who wrote (3911)10/13/1999 9:28:00 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6418
 
Idiot literally means intellectually defective, although in idiomatic English it has come to mean "lacking in common sense", and therefore could be used for those who lack self- restraint. In earlier translations of the Ethics, the term used is "incontinent", but in contemporary English that has narrowed to mean a problem with bladder control, so it will no longer do. "Libertine" is not quite right, because what is meant is someone who knows better, but cannot adequately control himself, and a libertine willfully indulges. Perhaps the nearest term would be "undisciplined".....



To: MNI who wrote (3911)10/13/1999 10:17:00 PM
From: nihil  Respond to of 6418
 
"Idiot" is such a wonderful word that it has picked up many meanings, but in classic Greek "Idiotes" (from idios -- private -- as in idiopathic, idiosyncratic) merely meant a private person, who avoided his public duties as a citizen (Aristotle, I believe, but I can't find the exact chapter and verse right now.