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To: slacker711 who wrote (2348)10/14/1999 5:16:00 PM
From: Ruffian  Respond to of 13582
 


U.S. seeks to broaden IT tariff reduction in
WTO talks

By George Leopold
EE Times
(10/14/99, 4:02 p.m. EDT)

WASHINGTON — The Clinton administration said Wednesday (Oct. 13)
that it will push for further reductions in global tariffs on information
technology (IT) products during a World Trade Organization (WTO)
ministerial meeting next month.

Outlining its trade strategy going into the next round of WTO negotiations
scheduled to begin Nov. 30 in Seattle, the White House said it will push for
adoption of an Information Technology Agreement II backed by the U.S.
high-tech industry. WTO adopted the first IT agreement in 1997. The accord
eliminated tariffs on about $600 billion worth of technology products,
including computers and telecommunications equipment.

"In Seattle, the United States goal is to adopt 'ITA-2' agreement to make
additional information technology products tariff free," trade officials said in a
statement.

The U.S. high-tech industry has been lobbying U.S. trade negotiators for
months to place extension of the IT agreement at the top of the U.S. agenda
during the WTO talks.

During an August congressional hearing on the agenda for the WTO talks,
Rhett Dawson, president of the Information Technology Industry Council
(ITI) told lawmakers, "We strongly advocate completion of the ITA II
negotiations to expand product coverage" and to address non-tariff trade
barriers like incompatible technical standards. The group also has been
pushing for the elimination of duplicate testing and certification requirements
for IT products in foreign markets.

China, for example, requires government certification of foreign
telecommunications products. Under ITA II, the certification would have to
be dropped in order for China to join WTO.

China is one of 33 nations seeking WTO membership. U.S. trade officials
said allowing China and others into the trade organization would also help
harmonize intellectual property laws that are seen as the key to unleashing
global electronic commerce.

The U.S. agenda for the Seattle talks also includes seeking an extension of a
1998 moratorium on customs duties on "electronic transmissions."
Washington will also press WTO members to oppose any barriers to the
spread of e-commerce and promote its expansion to developing countries.

Along with extending the moratorium on duties, ITI wants the administration
to "clarify that the exemption from tariffs applies both to the transmissions
themselves and to their contents," Dawson said.



To: slacker711 who wrote (2348)10/14/1999 6:27:00 PM
From: Ruffian  Respond to of 13582
 
Palm Speaks Out on Nokia Deal page 2
3:00 a.m. 14.Oct.99.PDT

continued
Bercow: Presumably. But again, we don't
need to license anything to Symbian to
do what we're doing.

WN: No. But presumably the advantage
would be to them, licensing the nice
friendly Palm interface from you.

Bercow: Potentially. Sure. That could be
one of the things we talk about.

WN: And that would bring the Palm
interface not just to this new category of
smart phones but to Psion handhelds and
similar devices?

Bercow: Presumably. But that's still one
of the things ... er ... that's not our
intention.

WN: So if these smart phones run the
Palm OS interface, will they also run Palm
applications?

Bercow: The simple way I describe this
to people is, you can think of an
operating system as made out of three
components. There's the microkernel.
There's the next level -- the OS services
-- and the third level is the interface and
user environment. So what we're doing is
we're taking the Palm OS services and
the user environment and putting that on
top of the Epoc kernel. So we don't
expect there will be any sort of
developer-visible interface other than the
Palm interface, because those are the
things you write to create your
applications.

WN: So the long and short of it is that it
will run Palm applications?

Bercow: Yes, it will run Palm
applications. But there won't be binary
compatability. I want to be clear about
that.

WN: Binary compatability. What's that?

Bercow: So that's where you would take
your application from your Palm OS device
today and just run it on this new device
that we're going to create with Nokia.

WN: So you will not be able to?

Bercow: You will not be able to. What
the developer will be able to do is to use
the same developer environment and the
same interfaces. We anticipate that it will
be nothing more than a recompile.

WN: So, applications should be easily
adapted?

Bercow: Right. Exactly.

WN: And of course that's a great
advantage. You have a very wide base of
software developers.

Bercow: Right. That's the reason why.
People are asking why did Nokia do this?
The answer is to leverage the Palm
economy -- the 22,000-plus registered
developers we have, the relationships we
have with Oracle, Cybase, Computer
Associates, SAP. To put that on Nokia
phones is a huge advantage for them.

WN: So what about Symbian? They don't
have anywhere near the software or the
developers you have.

Bercow: Right.

WN: Do you think they're eyeing that,
too? The Palm ecosystem?

Bercow: I think they'd like to have the
kind of ecosystem that Palm has.... If
there's potentially some way we could
work with them to take advantage of
that ... I suppose. I don't know what that
is yet. We don't really have the intention
to make that happen. Although again, we
haven't really sat down to talk about our
responsibilities.
WN: So what kind of time frame is the
Nokia deal going to play out in?

Bercow: The Nokia devices have been
slated to be available in the next two
years. So there's some work that needs
to be done to get these devices to
market.

WN: And with Symbian?

Bercow: There's no time frame. There's
no obligation to finish by certain dates or
anything.

WN: Where do today's announcements
put Windows CE? The Palm OS seems to
be going from strength to strength.

Bercow: I think the real loser in the deal
with Nokia is Microsoft. I think it's a big
blow. I haven't heard any reaction out of
them today, but I imagine it's a big blow
to them.

WN: Well, a couple of days ago Bill Gates
showed off a next-generation smart
phone running Windows CE, browsing the
Web, in color. Apparantly quite an
impressive demonstration.

Bercow: Well, Microsoft has always been
really good at two things: As [Sun
Microsystems'] Scott McNealy says,
they're great [inaudible]. And the other
thing they're good at is showing
technology. But they're not great at
creating compelling products.

WN: Philips just dropped its Windows CE
product.

Bercow: Philips just dropped their
palm-sized Windows CE product, that's
correct. I've heard rumors that the others
are getting out as well.

WN: Do you think you've heard Windows
CE death knell then?

Bercow: Microsoft's not going to give up
on it. I expect it will be back. Remember,
Microsoft only has got to get it right
enough. So, we're not at all going to take
our eye off them for a second. But we're
enjoying a leadership position right now.

WN: What's up with Java?

Bercow: We announced with Sun back in
the early summer. Sun has introduced a
new Java platform, called Java 2 micro
edition ... and we're supporting that and
when that's available we'll provide that to
our developers.

WN: So the Palm OS will run Java apps
using this new platform?

Bercow: Yes. Some day. That's correct.

WN: Will it run on the Nokia smart
phones, too?

Bercow: Good question. I don't know the
answer to that just yet. It should, but I'd
be just short of saying that's true. I want
it to. It would make sense for us.

WN: To go back to Symbian again, does
the Symbian relationship open up a
backdoor to talking to other members of
the Symbian partnership -- Motorola and
Ericsson -- who make up the rest of the
mobile phone manufacturers?

Bercow: I don't think so, because we
didn't use Symbian to make this deal with
Nokia, so I don't see why we would use
them to make deals with these other
guys. Now, I'm not confirming or denying
we are talking to those other guys, I'm
simply saying Symbian's involvement with
our ability to set up this relationship with
Nokia was exactly zero. They're entirely
separate.

I've seen some material on the Symbian
Web site today and it lists them as a
player in this relationship with Nokia and
... they're just not party to this
agreement... So, they're doing what I
probably would do. They're positioning
themselves [inaudible].... The fact is the
agreement today was between us and
Nokia.

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To: slacker711 who wrote (2348)10/14/1999 6:33:00 PM
From: Ruffian  Respond to of 13582
 
Palm Speaks Out on Nokia Deal
by Leander Kahney

3:00 a.m. 14.Oct.99.PDT
Mark Bercow, Palm's vice president of
strategic alliances and platform
development, set up Wednesday's big
deal with Nokia to put the Palm OS on
mobile phones.

At the same time, Symbian -- a joint
venture between cell phone giants Nokia,
Motorola, Ericsson, and Palm's European
arch nemesis, Psion -- put out a press
release claiming it also was talking to
Palm, a move that apparently irked
Bercow.

Wired News: Do you want to give a
quick summary of the news?

Bercow: So, today we announced jointly
with Nokia a broad cross-licensing
agreement. The headlines would be that
Nokia has licensed the Palm OS. And
second, that we would co-develop with
Nokia an advanced version of Palm OS
that will create a category of what we
call pen-based smart phones. Essentially,
integrated cell phone and Palm devices
that will be owned by Palm and also
licensed to others.

More Infostructure in Wired News
Read more in The Wireless World

WN: Don't you already have that with
Qualcomm?

Bercow: We do. We have the existing
relationship with Qualcomm, with the Palm
OS and the smart phone, and we're going
to do the same sort of thing with Nokia.

WN: Which are, of course, the market
leaders.

Bercow: Which are the worldwide
leaders. Yes, that's right.

WN: And what about the Symbian
relationship? That's a bit strange. An
agreement to discuss ...?

Bercow: Yeah. We've agreed -- mostly
because we've been asked to by our
licensing partner -- that we should sit
down and talk about the possibility of
maybe working together sometime in the
future, which we said we would do.

WN: So Nokia asked you to do that?

Bercow: Yes. They're partners with both
of us and they suggested it might be
beneficial if we both talk.

WN: Why did they suggest that?

Bercow: Because it feels good.

WN: But why? Symbian used to be the
software arm of Psion, which is Palm's
major competitor in Europe.

Bercow: Right. First of all, this
agreement between us and Nokia today
involves no third parties. We have been
actually somewhat fazed at how effective
Symbian has been at getting their nose in
the middle of our announcement with
Nokia, and we sort of wonder why that is
happening, but this agreement is between
us and Nokia.

WN: Right. But maybe people are
interested in the Symbian thing because
it's a little harder to understand.

Bercow: Well, that's ... yeah, from that
standpoint. I think we're characterizing it
as a feel-good announcement. It makes
sense for us to see if there are ways for
us to see where we might be able to work
together and we'll sit down and try to
figure that out.

WN: Reuters was saying the idea is to
put the Palm OS interface on top of the
nice, sleek Epoc OS.

Bercow: It is true that in this joint
development work with Nokia that we will
use the Epoc kernel. But that's the
extent of it. It's the kernel. The same
way that ... you see the Palm OS is
architected so that it can support
different kernels.... So the joint
development work we're going to do with
Nokia will use the Epoc kernel. We'll use
other kernels for other types of devices in
these other kinds of deals.

WN: OK. And is this how -- presumably --
the relationship with Symbian would fit
together?

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