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To: kash johal who wrote (75544)	10/14/1999 8:37:00 PM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572208

kash - <One of my nightmares was Intel pulling out an 800-900Mhz surprise. It really look like 733/750 is pretty close to the limit for Intel.> By when? Are you saying that because the release speed will probably be 7xx, you are going to dismiss any scaling in the future? kash, your nightmare will come true soon enough. As I've said many times, Coppermine will scale quite well on MHz. 733-750 is by no means the limit. That's silly. PB

To: kash johal who wrote (75544)	10/14/1999 8:46:00 PM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572208

kash - <With imminent release by AMD of a 750 in 0.25 and also 0.18 micron devices on the way- sure looks good for AMD IMHO.> Have you already forgotten the quoted article where AMD officials outlayed the Athlon MHz roadmap. It was nothing special, even into the ".18" timeframe. I believe the Athlon is .18 in the front end already, and unless the device is already Rc limited, going to .18 backend won't provide any "magical" scaling ability. They may have sandbagged a little. Nonetheless, I will go on record as saying Coppermine should perform at least as well in raw compared to Athlon over time. Coppermine scales quite well actually. PB

To: kash johal who wrote (75544)	10/15/1999 12:24:00 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572208

RE <<<One of my nightmares was Intel pulling out an 800-900Mhz surprise. It really look like 733/750 is pretty close to the limit for Intel.>>> Kash, think about it....who has the advantage here? Who was first with the 650?, 700? In fact who has THE FASTEST CHIP IN ALL THE LAND? Do you think all that AMD techs are doing is sitting around a table wondering and worrying if intc will get to 800 MHz soon. I don't thiiink so. I think you need to stop assigning god like powers to intc. The major difference between intc and AMD is that intc has more humans with more money to burn. Not necessarily a good combo; to whit all the screwups in the last few months. I bet AMD is the first with 800MHz and 1 G. JMHO! ted