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To: Don Pueblo who wrote (142)	10/15/1999 9:49:00 PM
From: Mike 2.0	Respond to of 3246

Votes cast for: Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower... Good thread topic. I'll cast a vote for Theodore Roosevelt. He deserves credit for saving and transforming the capitalist system in the US which we take for granted today. Not so in TR's day: there were huge trusts that monopolized markets and threatened to leave the US with a dual class society. This reached a crescendo when overworked, underpaid coal miners, working in horrendous conditions, went on strike. Owners would not even acknowledge the strike. Coal was essentially only means of heat for the country. TR stepped in and threatened to seize the mines from the owners if they did nothing to end the stalemate. The strike ended, at least some concessions were made. TR went on to bust the trusts and rescue the capitalist system from becoming a monopolistic system. Basically TR had the common sense and concern for the common man that the aristocractic government of Russia totally lacked. Fascinating PBS documentaries chronicle how both nations went in opposite directions at about the same time...and be sure to catch PBS documentary "TR" next time it is aired. In a similar vein, I suspect Dwight Eisenhower may get overlooked in this poll. Again, an A+ bio by PBS on DDE gives Eisenhower the recognition he deserves in staring down China's aggression and protecting the US during the Cold War. True,the U2 incident, his one blunder during office, unraveled all of his own hard work towards ending the Cold War. Still, his lifetime of service as a military leader and then President cannot be overstated.

To: Don Pueblo who wrote (142)	10/15/1999 9:49:00 PM
From: bobby beara	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 3246

Henry Ford, the Wright Bros., The guys that started IBM, the guys at Xerox Parc in Palo Alto in the 70-80's, Jobs & Wozniak, Gates, but he gets a B because he was an implementer of the Jobs and Wozniak platform. The automobile, the airplane and the computer were the three defining industries of this century.

To: Don Pueblo who wrote (142)	10/15/1999 10:00:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3246

Asbestos disclaimer - (not a health warning, but flame protection) - the word "contribution" is subjective. If you ignore that business with six million dead in torture camps, Hitler had a wide range of lasting, positive influence. (much of it in reaction to his power grab.) His example made the new German constitution and military charter (post-WWII) a model of careful wordcraft and organization. "Autobahn" and "Volkswagen", Nazi-sponsored projects, remain household words. The Apollo program happened on our side of the pond due to an accident of history! I grant you - the bathwater was pretty nasty but hang onto the baby that was in there.