To: Ward Nicholson who wrote (1739 ) 10/17/1999 3:27:00 PM From: VisionsOfSugarplums Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 2259
Interesting reading on the links provided by you and Osprey. Monday looks like it'll be a down day, can't imagine a rally in advance of CPI on Tues. I am curious, as well, about sentiment should a big downdraft occur. With the changing market conditions (interest rate environment, higher oil prices, high consumer debt levels, etc. etc.), would we see bounces on stocks such as seem to occur in a bullish market or are the responses to "oversold" conditions going to be much more muted (I lean to the latter, especially as this appears to be the case in '99 from my own very non-scientific observations). The drop and rally mentality of the market is hard to overcome -in many respects, it's hard not to look at a big down day as a buying opportunity. However, it's also important to remember that the anticipated rally/recovery may be weak (selling into strength) and to keep in mind the overall macro trend may be changing(turning downwards?). And as always, beware of falling knives. Just rambling here because I've never been through any sort of "crash", should one occur. With the increasing numbers of retail investors taking charge of their own accounts, and a large number of them only having invested/traded through a primarily bull market, high levels of consumer debt - it really makes you think about your preconceived (subconscious?) notions of how the market reacts and traditional support/resistance lines (for example, I can bring up 5 year charts on Stockwatch but is this the time frame I should be looking at or should I now be looking at a longer one? The last crash was in '87 - stocks didn't break 1929 levels <ggg> but it would be interesting to know where they found support, such as on the five year chart? Changes have been made since '87 in regulations, etc., which are supposed to "fix" some of the "causes" of the selloff in '87 and therefore maybe it is not an analagous year, however there appears to many similarities in market conditions and so perhaps it is. TRP is very close to it's four year low and appears to be finding support, but maybe that timeframe is no longer relevant since market conditions have changed compared to that time period. Oil and gas may be the safe sector but I see lots of oil and gas stocks that have pulled back 30% plus from their highs this year despite the fact that oil prices are at decade highs. Multiples to next year cash flows, around $20WTI, are under '97 levels. I know this is a bit simplistic, but is this attributable to the changing market ? - because a lot of people in Calgary are scratching their heads as to why these stock prices aren't higher). As an example of how the changing market may impact your previous notions/thoughts - the strategy of some in making a bad "daytrade" an "investment" becomes more risky and has a longer time horizon than in previous years - it may work in a bull market but in a bear market your timeframe for recovery has increased substantially. The same idea applies to position trades. Discipline is more important in these conditions, I think. Not trying to be maudlin here, however I do find this intriguing. And, at the end of the day, this could be another little blip in the continued bull market. I continue to be a big pa.net Regards, t.pigsnstuff.com