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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: epicure who wrote (59221)	10/17/1999 6:49:00 PM
From: MSB	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 108807

Damnit! I hate my obcessive/compulsive nature, and its giving me a headache (logging off and laying down didn't help, obviously, but the 4 ibuprophen seem to be helping). Where to start...where to start. Hodge-podge as usual. How it is that you make the leap of a simple prayer spoken aloud lasting all of one minute at the most to defining your children's education befuddles me. Now please, explain that to me. When I was in school (elementary) and we had our milk was the only time I ever remember saying anything remotely resembling a prayer. By the time I got to middle school, we didn't even say a prayer about anything (although that could have been due to the law and I just didn't know it then or now). No where do I remember a picture of Jesus next to the president at the time, nor do I remember any other religious symbols which would have caused me to stand up and take notice enough to remember them now. Yes, we sang religious songs based on (I believe) a Christian doctrin during christmas time during choral presentations. But that was just something we did. I don't recall it ever having any effect what-so-ever on how I percieved religion in any way shape or form. But then again, I had to go to church every Sunday, too. I can tell you with out a doubt I would rather have stayed home. It wasn't until I was probably in the 8th grade that the real meaning about how God played a part in my life was fully comprehended. Point: Kids can't make the distinction! But yet we can't have anything to do with anything about religion in anyway shape or form in public schools. Now this RESPECT thing isn't about your children is it. Its about you and your beliefs....you, an adult. I see this whole argument supposedly about children, but lets be fair. It isn't about the children at all to a large extent, its about the parents and really the uncomfortableness of their own beliefs as opposed to those practices, minimal as they may be, in public schools. Another thing, why is it that when we consider the rights of the minority we are subjected to their will when in just darn near every thing else its the majority that rules. This makes absolutely no sense to me. And why is it in an age of mobility going back many decades now don't those parents who are opposed to such offensive displays of religious molestation(???? [Oh please. Couldn't you have picked a word that most people don't associate with perversion]) just move! You don't like it then leave. Mobility doesn't seem to be the problem it once was. Nobody is making you stay. And there are alternatives (private schools or home schooling). But no, the oh so offensive religious right has to have the moral righteous homogenous standards shoved down their throats and tough shit if they don't like it because they're protecting the rights of the minority. What a crock!! I think that the government ought to let the school boards decide. If the majority likes it one way the minority can move or lump it. Its called choice. --------------------------------------- I got Ish's point, but his example was geared more to the physical aspects of a perceived notion that a noxious substance could be psychologically introduced into the minds of children to have adverse affects. Thats a hell of a long way from a religious practice introduced as evidence of psychological damage not to mention on an incidence basis, rare. --------------------------------------- Yes, business can display religious symbols and do. Yes, private homes of citizens can do the same. But I said, "First it was the schools, then it was public places, and what next etc.,etc. When I said public places I meant all those places as it pertains to public property...property as built and maintained by public taxes. I've heard, though I cannot cite, objection being raised by the un-religious minority taking offense for displays of any kind of religious symbol in such places. Heck, not long ago some guy was suing some city because they had a fish in the town flag. Frankly, its petty, imo. Nobody probably cared one iota until this guy decides to make a stink about it. Judas priest, what some people won't do for attention. ------------------------------------------------ Lets face it X, I'm not convince you, you're not going to convince me. But feel free to respond. I think I've adequately covered my position. But it was fun, sort'a.