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To: Shivram Hala who wrote (8572)10/19/1999 4:54:00 PM
From: Shivram Hala  Respond to of 12475
 
Excerpts - China's Missile Exports and Assistance to Pakistan - Statements and Developments - A chronology

This is also from CNS dicklesshead. Maybe you problem is that you don't know how to read. Or maybe you just have a comprehension disability. In plain english... you just don't get it.

Now we know how good your research is.

cns.miis.edu

And BTW nowhere does it state that the M11 have been uncrated.
To the contrary here's what it has.

6/11/98: In testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Dr. Gordon Oehler - the
former Director of the CIA's Nonproliferation Center - revealed several interesting details about
China's M-11 missile exports to Pakistan. Many of the details Dr. Oehler provided have not
before been released in the public realm.
--------------- Read the report --------------

6/12/96: According to US intelligence agencies, Pakistan has deployed the M-11 missiles it
received from China in 1993. Whether or not the missiles are operational is the topic of ongoing
debate between various US agencies drafting an intelligence report. In a 13 June 1996
Washington Post article, CIA and Defense Department intelligence officials argue that
Pakistan's M-11 missiles should be considered operational because they have been assigned to
an army unit trained by Chinese technicians to operate the missiles. The State Department
disagreed with the assessment, saying that the missiles are not operational until they are
assembled and are used in training by the military. [Bill Gertz, "Pakistan Deploys Chinese Missiles,"
Washington Times, 12 June 1996, pp. A1, A14.]

7/3/95: US intelligence officials said that by November 1992, China had exported over 30
complete M-11 MRBMs to Pakistan; this view is contrary to earlier reports that only missile
components had been sent. The officials say storage crates at Pakistan's Sargodha air force base
west of Lahore contain the M-11 missiles. Since obtaining the M-11s, Pakistan has built storage
sheds, mobile launchers, and related maintenance facilities and housing.
---------------- With the aid of Chinese
experts, Pakistan has also been conducting practice launches. -----------------
[R. Jeffrey Smith and David B.
Ottaway, Washington Post, 3 July 1995, p. 1; The Risk Report, October 1995, pp. 3-8.]

Mid-9/94: According to US officials, Chinese technicians checked M-11 missile components
for serviceability, and trained Pakistani soldiers in the missile's use at a facility under construction
near Sargodha. US State Department spokesman Michael McCurry stated, "It's our
understanding that some Chinese engineers and technicians did go to Pakistan. Their purpose is
not entirely known to us." US intelligence agencies have "strong evidence" that M-11 missiles are
being sequestered at a number of military bases in Pakistan. The CIA stated in a secret report
that Pakistan paid $15 million to the China Precision Machinery Import-Export Corporation
(CPMIEC), the producer of the M-11. According to Admiral Richard Macke, the commander
of the US Pacific Command, the M-11s have not yet been "operationalized." Macke added that
US-PRC military contacts will be conditioned on China not assisting Pakistan to "make their
M-11's operational." [Bill Gertz, Washington Times, 4 October 1994, p. A8; Barbara Starr, Jane's Defence
Weekly, 15 October 1994, p. 6.]

9/94: For the first time, Pakistan conceded that it purchased M-11 missiles from China. Pakistan
Embassy political counselor Zamir Akram said in Washington, DC that his country had made no
secret of the purchases. Pakistan stated that sanctions should not be levied due to the purchase
because the range of the M-11 missile falls below the required 300 km minimum range set by the
MTCR. Other Pakistani officials continue to deny that Pakistan has made the purchase. [R.
Jeffrey Smith and Thomas W. Lippman, Washington Post, 8 September 1994, p. A32; Asian Age, 9 September
1994; in International Security Digest, September 1994, p. 94.]

9/94: It was reported that a leaked US intelligence report said that Chinese technicians will soon
travel to Pakistan to assist in activating the Chinese-supplied M-11 missiles. US officials claim
that the Chinese missile technicians are due to arrive at Sargodha, Pakistan to train the Pakistan
military in using the M-11. Another Chinese team will unpack and assemble the missiles after
completion of the Sargodha missile facility. [Wall Street Journal, 14 September 1994, p. A18;
Washington Times, 7 September 1994, p. A1, A18.]



To: Shivram Hala who wrote (8572)10/19/1999 5:14:00 PM
From: sea_biscuit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 12475
 
Maybe you are too stupid to realize it... but you just called yourself a "dicklesshead"!

Hmph... bwahahahahahahahahaha!

You don't get the joke? Oh, never mind! <g> Bwahahahahahahaha!



To: Shivram Hala who wrote (8572)10/19/1999 5:29:00 PM
From: sea_biscuit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12475
 
This is from the report you provided. Look under 06/11/98, i.e. almost a month after India's nuclear tests...

In more general terms, Dr. Oehler explained that the Clinton Administration did not impose the most
severe, Category I sanctions after the 34 M-11s were transferred in 1992 in order to maintain as
much "negotiating flexibility" as possible so as not to imperil the Sino-US bilateral relationship with
such a strong penalty. In Oehler's words, "Because of their interest in wanting to preserve their
negotiating flexibility in my view, there was going to be little likelihood that the evidence would ever be
high enough to do that [impose Category I sanctions]." Dr. Oehler continued that the White House and the
State Department argued that the intelligence evidence of complete M-11 transfers was
"insufficient" to trigger the imposition of Category I sanctions, mainly because the missiles were still in
crates.
He said "Because of the impact of the sanctions, they needed to set the level of evidence very
high."