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To: Petz who wrote (76225)10/20/1999 12:49:00 PM
From: Charles R  Respond to of 1571611
 
Petz,

<Another thought on why Dresden won't be at "production level output" until 2H'00.
The ideal 0.18 chips should have either a 256K L1 or integrated L1 and L2. Changing the L1 size generally requires a redesign of the core, which takes time. The "test chips" out of Dresden this quarter may just be shrunk 0.25 Athlons with 128K L1 and no integrated L2.

Actually to redesign the core and get to production levels in 6-9 months is very aggressive and must be enabled by the tools used in the Athlon design. Intel's lack of similar tools is the reason why the CuMine still has the same 32K L1 cache. They would have gotten more bang for the buck by increasing L1, but redesigning an Intel core takes over a year.>

I can see that some products may be delayed for design reasons but there should be others that are not. If Dresden does not get production material out - K6s or Athlons or SRAMs or something - before the end of Q1, that indicates they are having problems. In that case Paul will be right. Let's see.

Chuck



To: Petz who wrote (76225)10/21/1999 8:48:00 PM
From: Yousef  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571611
 
John,

Re: "Another thought on why Dresden won't be at "production level output"
until 2H'00."

Couldn't it be as simple as ... AMD is having trouble bringing up
the Motorolo Copper process. In Fact, Motorolo is also having
problems with it. "Ashok's Razor" ?? <ggg>

Make It So,
Yousef