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To: Akula who wrote (4374)	10/21/1999 9:05:00 AM
From: Bill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 6418

<<The fall of communism was inevetable. >> Geez, if only Karl Marx had checked with you before publishing his Manefesto. What was he thinking?

To: Akula who wrote (4374)	10/22/1999 10:12:00 AM
From: pezz	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6418

<<Enviromental, social, and humanitarian disasters are everywhere.>> Avoiding the possibility of nuclear holocaust that the previous generation created was just inevitable . But not preventing social disasters that occurred as a result of internal conditions thousands of miles from our borders was the fault of the boomers. Is that the message? Now let me get this one straight What happened on our watch was our fault......... Unless it was good in which case it was inevitable. The Cuyatoga River btw burned long before we had any power . And it has been cleaned up by us as a result of the noise we made over it. Re Exxon Valdes....It is silly to indite an entire generation for the action of one drunken ships captain. Again it was the boomers that saw to it that the clean up was real. <<That is not even counting the humanitarian disasters you allowed to happen. How could your generation let people in Sudan and Ethiopia starve at the same time the government was paying its farmers not to produce food? Did you know that 40,000 people starve to death each day while dieting equipment is a multibillion dollar industry here? Rmember that a culture that allows genocide to occur is as guilty as the perpetrators. Just recently, your generation refused to intervene in the easily avoidable disasters in Rwanda and Bosnia-Hertzegovina.>> Akula your political naivete has been exposed in this paragraph. If only the world were so simple. Intervening in sovereign nations is fraught with complications. You seem to conveniently forget that civil war was involved with these instances of starvation and that getting food to the civilians was not possible. You accuse the boomers of not feeding the world while we have abundance. Tell me in the history of the world what other generation did so ! How much money does your generation spend on video games while this starving goes on? Ever hear of "CARE"? You call these <<easily avoidable>> disasters ........... Himmmm ......... Would you volunteer for military service to Bosnia ? Would your parents want you to?<< You allowed clear cutting and strip mining to continue>> Well I am not sure that strip mining is still allowed and clear cutting has been reduced. But the worst you can say here is that we were no worse than the previous generation. Hardly qualifying us for <<no other generation has managed that level of disaster and hipocracy.>> Three mile Island has been cleaned up and your categorization as to it's cause is supposition at best. Further more no deaths resulted and the nuclear power industry has been dealt a death blow by it. <<What have you really done to help>> siliconinvestor.com won't repeat myself... Read it again! pez

To: Akula who wrote (4374)	10/25/1999 8:45:00 AM
From: greenspirit	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6418

Akula, social and economic systems don't work on the theory that a central brain should ensure happiness for all. They work more like the brain of an ant. An ants brain doesn't tell the leg to move. The leg tells the other leg. Vibrant, lasting social and economic systems are similar to this. Also, the belief that if A is good, more of A is even better is a fallacy. A few examples... -Some gun laws are good and necessary, completely banning them is bad. -Some Welfare is good and necessary, completely providing it for decades is destructive. -Some taxes are good and necessary, high taxes are bad. -Some environmental laws are good and necessary, completely destroying commerce for the good of nature is not. -Some interjections in other countries to help end starvation is good and necessary, full scale economic and military control is not. In many cases, horrible incidents around the world don't happen because America allowed it to happen. They simply happen. The belief that one central brain should be in charge of the world to end all the wrongs is a utopian dream. However, it's noble to believe that way as a teen. Here's a recommended book. amazon.com Michael