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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (76392)10/21/1999 5:05:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573766
 
And now for some comments from Tom which aren't painted red by an anti-Intel bias:

www6.tomshardware.com

However, the next Athlon processors, starting with the Athlon 750, will clock the second level cache at only 2/5 of the core clock, not at 1/2 as Athlon 500-650. This will worsen the performance-scaling, especially once the multiplier shrinks down to 1/3 in Athlons beyond 800 MHz. Coppermine will continue to run it's L2-cache at 1/1, regardless how high the clock speed. It's a matter of fact that AMD needs to get their .18 micron Athlons with on-die L2-cache ready as soon as possible, because once i820 does run, Intel only needs to increase Coppermine's clock and it will overtake Athlon. This could be the end of AMD.

I wonder how much a slower L2 cache is really going to hurt Athlon performance, given its large L1 cache and the high-speed bus. Nevertheless, Tom is right; AMD will definitely need to do something about that L2 cache.

AMD's other problem is the delay of i820. You may wonder why that would be; it should really be an advantage to AMD. Unfortunately it isn't really. Due to i820's delay VIA sees it's chance of a lifetime. If Coppermine gets released without i820, the only sensible 133 MHz FSB & AGP4x platform will be the VIA 640 chipset. Thus all efforts at VIA are directed towards this chipset. At the same time resources are taken away from the development of VIA's upcoming Athlon-chipset that's supposed to support PC133 and AGP4x. This chipset could possibly change the mood of the Taiwanese motherboard industry, but for the time being the only Athlon chipset is AMD's Irongate and that might stay this way for quite a while.

Never thought of it that way. Tom sees the 820 delay as a problem for AMD, since its potetially causing VIA to divert attention away from Athlon chipsets and onto P6 chipsets. (Didn't I mention about a month ago that VIA will feel less and less compelled to support Athlon, now that they're going to make Socket 370 processors? Seems like VIA will now have a jump start into establishing a foothold in the Socket 370 and Slot 1 chipset market, something that's sure to benefit them when they release their new processors.)

Tenchusatsu



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (76392)10/21/1999 7:12:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573766
 
Ten,
Actually, I think Tom is improving....and remember, he likes Chinese women <G> Remember, again, where FAB 30 is located and you will see where Tom-boy is coming from...
He's frustrated, I don't think it matters who or where the Athlon motherboards are to be made...

Jim



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (76392)10/21/1999 7:37:00 PM
From: steve harris  Respond to of 1573766
 
No controversy here Tenchusatsu.

I found Tom's rant entertaining, a little exaggeration thrown in.
Blow it off. I'm sure more is on the way.

Why don't you email Tom? Use your computer at work. Scare the heck out of him when he checks the routing.

Sorry if you had a bad day at work Ten, it happens sometimes when you work at a company that is under the gun and can't execute lately.
Hope Monday is a smashing success!

Best wishes,
stupid moron



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (76392)10/21/1999 7:57:00 PM
From: greg nus  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573766
 
Ten, YOur have to eat your words now you Intelnits have dropped the Chalupa