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To: Robert Dirks who wrote (43649)10/23/1999 5:52:00 PM
From: Rarebird  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116756
 
Robert, we are in a Bear Market in Equities in the USA Now. I went heavily short the S@P and NDX on Friday at the close. Bull Market manias end slowly and gradually. The Polyannas are very tough and they will continue to buy every dip until they are wiped out.
I know your a HM fan and so am I. All my gold stock holdings went to the moon a few weeks ago except HM. HM will have its day. You can bet on that. Just don't expect it to move up when you want it too.

Although I would never subscribe to any financial publication or newsletter because I love to think for myself, I do read this gentleman's market analysis for free. He has been on the money since the middle of July:

Wave Signals Newsletter
By Mike Drakulich 10-22-99

SOME LIKE IT HOT!

STOCK MARKET
If you like wild swings from day to day and week to week, simply
follow the stock market. And expect this volatility to continue as the
market continues to face huge cross currents into year end. Interest rates continue to rise as 30-year bond yields made a new weekly closing high at 6.36%, and yet earnings have been very good overall. But then there are negative earnings bombshells all over the place, as stocks like IBM and others have had negative announcements and those stocks get killed on that
news. What is an investor or trader to do?
As a trader the huge swings provide good opportunities if one has the intestinal fortitude to take positions at the near term extremes. The best case I see for the stock market here is a wide trading range between Dow 10,000-11,000. The worst case appears to be a decline to at least 9500 and perhaps even below Dow 9000. Even with the strong rally late in the week the markets internal technical action is absolutely horrible. The advance/decline like is acting terribly, and new 52 week lows continue to swamp new 52 week highs. Also Trading Index(Trin or ARMS) readings which measure overbought/oversold levels, are again registering VERY overbought
readings, telling me that this most recent rally is likely very close to being over. Also we saw absolutely no climactic or panic action at recent lows just below Dow 10,000, and it is highly likely we will see that before any important bottom is seen. Also, call option buyers have been going berserk buying calls all week, and this does NOT bode well for a continuation of this rally. Look for a downside reversal early next week.
So sentiment and technical barometers suggest this latest rally is likely very close to ending, and that another swing down below Dow 10,000 is likely in the weeks ahead. Bigger picture, I see the upside as limited and still believe there is substantial downside risk, and we ultimately could see the major averages decline as much as 30% before a final bottom is seen. Risk/reward parameters in my opinion are currently NOT attractive for owning stocks at this time.

GOLD SECTOR
Subscribers spent the past several days accumulating the gold stocks that we took huge profits on at recent trading highs at the 90 level in the XAU, which is a North American gold stock mining index. I believe this recent decline in the gold stocks represents another excellent entry on the long side as gold itself approaches downside correction targets at the $290-300 level. As I have forecast since early summer, gold has VERY likely ended a 20 year Bear market and now has begun a Bull Market. I liken gold and gold stocks to where the stock market was in the Fall of 1982!
Not only do the technicals look very good in this sector, but
fundamentals have improved dramatically. Demand for gold is increasing
dramatically and supply is actually decreasing. Signs of increasing
inflation are everywhere, from commodity prices(oil especially) and wage inflation as well. And the vast majority could still care less about this sector, which is how Bull Markets begin and continue. If there is one area that I think the risk/reward parameters are about as good as they get, it is here in gold and the gold stocks.

decisionpoint.com



To: Robert Dirks who wrote (43649)10/23/1999 9:59:00 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116756
 
mortage rates,watch the mortage rates, friends. More exactingly the willingness of people to take on mortages at higher rates and these incredible property values. Make friends with a mortage broker. We had a drop off in housing starts reported, as mortage rates popped up, and people waited to see if there was a drop in rates pending.

Well, here's the kicker. The rates have not retreated and the next numbers to hit the market will show people are (as we speak)rushing into the mortage market prior to the next bounce in rates(unless the numbers across the nation are different from the Rocky mountain market or corrupted). This long money willing being snapped up at these rates will drive a demand for yet more expensive long term money. As these rates boom, gold will follow, as these lease rates follow the long bond & the mortage rate.

The shorts should take this last opportunity to get out or simply take the long walk on the short warf. Am I early installing a turnstile & diving board on top of high buildings on Wall Street?



To: Robert Dirks who wrote (43649)10/23/1999 10:34:00 PM
From: ahhaha  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116756
 
The ECB is near to raising rates possibly in November. This is a mistake, but they feel they need to emulate the nominal rate increase performance of the FED. It's called rate parity stabilization. Teitmeyer who no longer has the pull he once did with the ECB emphatically stated that individual countries must pursue independent monetary policies. Europe is a demand oriented regime, but they have to practice the countervailing action the BOJ is implementing. Any attempt to raise rates will cause political disaster and a rapid reversal in the economic circumstances of a burgeoning Europe. They simply can't afford to do that now and raising rates would cause the Euro to tank which is completely contrary to the prevailing wisdom. This is similar to the fiat yen creation which is considered to be yen depressing, but isn't. Most likely the ECB is shadow boxing, but if not, that means they don't have a good understanding of the pervasive power of the dollar functioning as the world's reserve currency.

The name of the game is now output. The question is how cheaply can a country achieve it both for export and consumption. One way is to practice monetary stimulus. It's cheap and there's enough slack to get away it. Europe is also slowly changing their fiscal policies, but not rapidly enough, so they have to lean on monetary policy and they can do that by interest rate decreases because they are a demand oriented regime. In such a regime pushing down rates causes money creation.

In a supply oriented regime like Japan it doesn't work that way. In Japan you have to create fiat currency otherwise rate decreases are just pushing on a string. Japan needed pure Keynesianism and Europe needs Keynes plus supply side. They don't need reserve currency parity. If the ECB raises rates they will be doing what the FED did in the early '30s and such an action has the potential to blow the ECU into its true national units of identity. Germany will never subordinate themselves to French and British hegemony anyway economic expediency notwithstanding.

The G-7 meeting is not some cabal where countries collude. No G-7 member trusts any other enough to accomplish that even if any collusion direction were deemed mutual. The G-7 meeting may entail some sharing among financial ministers of each other's plights, but financial ministers have little control over domestic monetary policy. That's under the purview of CBs and CBs are quite distant to political direction although there are few who would believe that. However, to believe so is never confirmed by history. Like Teitmeyer said, CBs have to deal in the real world of transactions, not the dream world of political aspirations. If you want to know how the CBs decided mutually to curtail gold sales and inventory profiteering, you would need access to the wired messages sent long before the G-7 meeting.



To: Robert Dirks who wrote (43649)10/24/1999 7:15:00 AM
From: Richnorth  Respond to of 116756
 
10:35p EDT Saturday, October 23, 1999

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

Here's another vital post from Friend of Another at the
forum section of www.USAGold.com. Its analysis is as
broad as can be, including an explanation of Kuwait's
announcement of gold lending. Of course I'm glad that
FOA mentions GATA here, but we're the least of it.

Read this carefully. I have a feeling that FOA gets as
close as anyone gets to what is going on behind the
scenes around the world.

Please post this as seems useful.

CHRIS POWELL, Secretary
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

* * *

Post by Friend of Another
at www.USAGold.com

Saturday, October 23, 1999

I also read the article in Barron's offering Mr.
Gartman's views. Thanks to poster "No. 6" for
placing some of it here (also welcome to you, Sir). It
is indeed a benefit for all of us to find the gold
story becoming more mainstream.

Slowly the effects of the European central banks' deal
are sinking in. Still, I think most established
analysts are going to be very surprised at how this
plays out.

As gold begins its rise, the numbers will verify to
many traders that another bull market is intact. Each
in his own way will attempt to gain from the price run.
That is, until the price starts to run out of sight!

You see, the gold market began to change back in the
late 1980s and early '90s, and that evolution has
shaken everyone that followed it.

Too date anyone who has invested in gold using the
traditional vehicles has been dead wrong. If I had to
guess, it would not surprise me to find that 95 percent
of these players have lost their shirts on a "net basis
over 10 years." Even the shorts lost money, as none of
them forsaw gold ever falling so far, some often
switching sides to catch the turnaround that never
came.

Truly, investing in gold "as an industry" or "as a long
leverage play" was not the game to be in recently, nor
will it be for the future. For gold has entered a new
era that will find it being held as "private money" in
the form of "real wealth." This is something our
"extended generation family" has never seen or
understood. More on this in a minute.

Onward....

A very large group of world investors has been buying
physical gold for many years. These people have been
dead right in their reasons to buy gold. Another has
said that "events will prove the wisdom of their ways."
I agree with this even more so as real actions slowly
prove their assessment.

On the other hand a very broad spectrum of gold bulls
can be seen on the side of the GATA group. They
believed in gold as an inflation hedge and a good
supply/demand investment situation. I'm sure most of
them own bullion to some extent, but am guessing that
most of their working money has been involved on the
industry side (gold shares). Truly this segment of the
community has found their investments on the wrong side
of a political currency transition that was destined to
change the gold markets for the rest of our lives.

Most everyone who analyzed gold from a "dollar
devaluation" standpoint was sure that gold (and the
producing industry they brought into) would soar from
such an event. Few could accept that for the dollar to
fall from world reserve status would also require the
destruction of the "dollar paper gold market." Nor
could they imagine how the years preceding this would
see the world flooded with "dollar paper gold
contracts." Yet, as this progressed over many years we
saw how the political manipulation that GATA rightly
exposes was being used in a way that will eventually
destroy the confidence in the dollar. For truly, in
today's world, if one loses the ability to contract for
gold in U.S. currency, then the reasons for holding
dollars at all begins to fade.

>From a country that runs a never-ending trade deficit,
foreign dollars and the interest they earn become a
purposeless hold. If dollars can never flow on a "net"
basis INTO the United States in a trade SURPLUS, the
result must be a bubble of dollars with no home or
value.

Political currency war as seen in simple sequence:

Build a bubble within the dollar gold market by selling
paper gold far and wide. By selling paper derivatives
of gold we free up official and private physical stocks
of bullion to quench the coin, bar, and fabrication
deficit. Because the world gold market is priced in
modern terms by "derivative contract," flood the paper
market and drive the price lower. In a never-ending
circle, the market expands in ownership as the price
falls.

"Coat-tail" this process on the IMF/dollar need to
lower gold to support its currency with a perception of
low inflation, and the political will to proceed is
reinforced.

For those major bullion buyers of the world (oil) who
would object to this, build a new currency upon the
standard of a future "Free World" gold price that can
become a trade settlement reserve item.

Once the timeline of the dollar is near the end of its
mathematical ability to expand world trade, destroy
this new fractional reserve gold market by adopting
self-liquidating rules into the official sector lending
game. With this turn, oil and gold prices begin a
dollar rise from which there is no return.

Eventually, the world gold markets, as built-in dollar
reserve contract terms, can no longer function. As
events slowly sink in, all foreign-held dollars (mostly
held in U.S. treasury form) are liquidated from dollar
terms by buying physical gold and Euros. For without
contract gold, in functioning form, physical gold must
eventually be bid at any price.

In real-time production, we see this beginning in the
U.S. Fed's buying U.S. treasuries almost every day in
an attempt to stop the rise in rates -- a rise that
comes without inflation. This is truly a rise that
comes from reserve currency competition.

Onward:

Today gold investors face a dilemma in concept. None of
them have ever seen a gold market that finds its total
demand coming from buying physical gold as a "wealth
money" asset -- buying that arrives in official as well
as private sources. In the limited experience of the
gold bugs with "free-market gold" dating from 1975,
physical gold buying was never the full driver of
price. The price always rose from, at best, a 50/50 mix
of paper leverage buying and physical buying.

Nor can they envision gold rising so much, so fast,
even before dollar price inflation takes hold. Our
"real life" education about gold prices ($100 to $800)
was explained entirely as "dollar price inflation"
dynamics. Never was it approached as gold becoming a
parallel private reserve asset, just like stocks,
bonds, and currencies.

Add to this the real prospects of the gold price-making
markets falling into complete turmoil and dysfunction.

Every Western investor knows how to convert and spend
his stock and bond portfolio. Yet the concept of
actually selling some personal gold to a private
dealer, without an official quoted market, is seen as
an "end-time event."

Thoughts....

During the next five years physical gold is going to
outlast and outperform not only the current world
derivative gold market but also outlive a large portion
of stockholder equity in most gold mines. During the
death throes of the gold marketplace, the dollar price
could be all over the map. Simply put, most short-term
traders and investors in long-term paper gold (gold
stocks included) will be eaten alive as we witness a
transition unlike anything ever seen.

How can one be ready for this? Some people are 80
percent gold bullion, 20 percent in the few largest
unhedged mines (there are only three or four) and hold
plenty of cash that is expected to devalue greatly.
Their mindset is ready for gold to be priced somewhere
between 0 and infinity. In other words, in their eyes
gold will outlive it all.

Some writers do a wonderful job of proposing that gold
is dead and holds little more use than a tradable
commodity. The most eloquent poster, Mr. Yellin of
Troy, has produced many fine articles that expound the
current feelings of Western life as expressed in its
need and view of gold. Still, all these concepts were
built using the American experience of the last hundred
years or so. I submit that this has been little more
than an experiment in progress that only now comes to
completion. In the end, the laws of nature always
control our destiny and the outcome is distilled into
this common reality:

"The only real earthly wealth is one we touched in
person, as all honor is fleeting."

Further:

Is this how it works?

When a major Middle East oil producer lends its last 79
tonnes of gold into the marketplace, one should know
that he will get that gold back. After all, these
people are not like you or me or the average globe-
trotting hedge fund. They are the oil producers for the
next hundred years.

As I offered before, that gold was loaned for a HUGE
concession that will never be made public. For the
marketplace to approach THEM is indicative of the
massive strains in the lending arena -- for these
people will not lend cheap.

Understand the dynamics that are now in effect.
Somewhere gold lenders and gold contract derivative
holders are exercising the very limits of their fine
print to get their gold back in allocated form. Since
the brokers between these deals have lost the ability
to control their counterparties, their firms must use
their own capital to buy physical gold and thereby blow
up the price, or else "borrow" it to cover their old
lenders. It's no contest and is done outside the retail
lending market so as to not gun the rental rates.

In the past the news of 79 tonnes being lent into the
market was an announcement of fresh supply to lower the
gold price. But today these announcements are for the
purpose of replacing defaulted loans.

It's important to understand that on an ongoing basis,
these new loans do change everything, as the broker now
must eventually cover this new loan from its own book.
The fear is that gold lenders that cannot regain their
bullion will start buying on the physical marketplace
as they call their lawyers to discuss just
compensation. This is the only kind of fear that will
compel some expensive deal making with people who
usually don't lend.

Also:

Every central bank in the world is looking at its
reserve dollar holdings and watching this latest gold
spike. I can tell you that they are analyzing this new
risk because the potential exists to cut them out of
the gold market at what was perceived to be low prices.

As the Euro gains use, dollar reserves will become a
huge dead liability, especially if the Bank for
International Settlements is stopping inter-bank gold
sales.

For China the risk is clear. I expect China to become
more active in buying defaulted gold commitments that
can function except for the lost margin, even if the
price paid is much higher than market.

The recent deal making by a large Arabian investor will
lead the way.

In some ways this action is a precursor of a two-tiered
market for gold, with future-delivered "higher-priced
street gold" taking the form of defaulted new mine
production. We shall see.

Thanks for reading and discussing.

FOA

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