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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (43743)	10/24/1999 11:08:00 PM
From: Richnorth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116818

It's just too bad U were not with us when Bre-X was in its death throes! in the 1st qtr of 1997. Otherwise, U would have discovered what a highly energetic, imaginative, optimistic and enterprising person ole 49r is! When Bre-X was declared a bust, ole 49r would have none of that verdict/nonsense. If my memory serves me well, she had an armada of skilled personnel ready to ship gear out to Busang to rework everything from A to Z to prove there is gold in 'them thar hills'. I won't be surprised if she and her faithful disciples are still hanging on to their Bre-X certificates and are eagerly awaiting the resurrection of the Bre-X phoenix from the ashes. I believe her armada is still waiting for the green light?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (43743)	10/24/1999 11:16:00 PM
From: d:oug	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 116818

Ron, you are exhibiting signs of advanced RRS(Ron Reece Syndrome). i did just post to you that you did it to yourself please replace your hate towards <<o49r and her buddy Roy>> and show anger towards yourself you to view no honesty possible unless enforced <<then hope that he's honest enough to no to shuffle around exactly who owns the proceeds from each particular trommel load.>> <<Unless one is actually on site, there certainly is nothing by Roy's personal guarantee that any gold that was derived from a trommel run actually landed in the buyers particular "slice".>> then you tell this thread that they are foolish and stupid and out of touch with reality in wanting a Gold Standard because they should accept whatever is currently out there producing the paper money <<sent 49r your $100 yet for your own personal "slice of life"??>> the following Ron is what o49r and her friend Ron and the lucky people on this planet have, which translates to a sense of well being, that which you lack <<"slice of life">> Bobby thinks I and o49r "attack" and are rude to others no, its the opposite we wish to engage in a "slice of life" Doug

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (43743)	10/24/1999 11:29:00 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 116818

About Y2K non-readiness... It's funny that WorldNutdaily decides to quote Joel Willamsen that way. I just attended a meeting last month where he and one of Koskinen's deputies squared off and took questions from the audience in a Q&A. The only comments of a negative sense that he provided at that time pertained to the fact that contingency planning was not up to the standard that he and Congressman Horn's committee expect. And if they weren't happy with contingency planning by a particular agency, they didn't provide them with the highest marks possible on Horn's report card. Now there are(were?) some issues related to the state-based interfaces with the SS system, but not so much with the actual Federal systems, but I don't recall him discussing this at the meeting and he certainly gave no sense that he felt SS was in dire danger of failure. So since I was there (along with such notable y2k gurus as Cory Hamasaki), I have to wonder whether Williamsen has changed his tune, or whether the reporter picked up on the contingency planning issue and decided to emphasize and exaggerate it (they wouldn't do that would they?). Just ridiculous that some people get their daily dose of conspiracy news from worldnutdaily.... Regards, Ron

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (43743)	10/25/1999 9:14:00 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 116818

Please review what I posted first in this regard again. What I related was ol49r has a great deal of knowledge to offer most on this thread in the fields of the mining, the gold markets, & recovery. This means she has something to teach which you, many others, or (in cases) I have to offer. As to the worth (or lack of worth) of her current enterprizes, I have not done a serious review or invested in, so I would not dare praise or pan them. It should be remebered,a great many who engage in any sort of activity do so with only the slightest of hope the activity will ever reach the break even point in a direct sense. There are more ways to profit than simply the dollar return. Along these lines,my favorite while living in West Texas, was dove hunting. Often the trips to the best hunting areas & leases would last the first three days of season, many boxes of shells(in the practice & hunting), many gallons of gasoline, and on & on the list goes. One of these most wonderful of trips, brought about an early limit out each of the three days for all but one in the party. At the bottom line we later deduced a price per pound of the dove breasts of greater than $800 per pound at the bottom line for our whole group. Best of all, we each considered we recieved a great "profit" from our weekend. Perhaps there is a "profit" of this sort in Ol's latest which you can not understand. Maybe one could learn enough from this type of personal recovery to assist in their other gold investments, I don't know.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (43743)	10/25/1999 11:18:00 AM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116818

OK Ron, Please take this in the way it is intended, constructive commentary. Your perceptions that "gold has little worth", "there is excess gold in the world", and your base of these perceptions "gold is not a currency", have colored your view of all things gold. Due to this, let me take you back a step or two & enhance your golden knowledge. For the sake if this educational process, we will forego the whole discussion of "gold is (or is not) currency", I will instead use the terms bullion gold findings or simply bullion gold. 1st, gold findings (occurrences if you prefer) differ greatly in value at times. These can be broadly broken into the categories of "bullion gold findings" and "rock hound gold". The value of the Bullion gold is widely known to all, and quoted at spot & futures prices, and the profitability(or lack there-of) from mining these is related to a great many factors not the least of which are Central Bank manipulations, hedging activities of major mining firms, and mining efficiency of those firms. The value of the "rock hound gold", though is not quoted, as this is often correctly referred to as "specimen gold" the value of which can only be determined by rates the market will pay. The price of this specimen gold is increased not decreased by the impurities in the base metal as one sees in "bullion gold". I gave examples of some of these gold prices in a review of the Denver Gem & Mineral Show two years ago, on this thread. A single example of "fine wire", "flake", or "sheet" specimen gold in a clear quartz crystal matrix may bring greater than $3500 per oz because of the inherent beauty of the piece. These pieces, at times, may make their way into jewelry or are often display objects. A single rare specimen with a very clear .4k ruby "impurity" in a crystalline(small crystals) quartz matrix of near equal clarity last year went at auction for $29000, with less than « oz gold in the specimen. This unique piece of natural wonder had the « oz of flat gold leafed out to surpass a 5" spread. At least once in the posts from Ol49r(or on one of the links, I forget which), she mentioned specimen gold finds on that property. I don't spend my spare time rock hounding, but enjoy looking at the fruits of the rock hounding of others. If this is how people wish to spend their money & time, there is often profit in the activity. As I have not looked at this property I will not judge the adequacy of this property for this activity, but understand the relationship(at times in the cycle inverse) between rock hound gold & bullion gold. As these specimen pieces are often found near the end of veins is mines which are not currently economical to produce in a production mining mode, the relative increase & decrease of the presence of these items in this specialized secondary gem & mineral market have been considered a valid indicator of the overall health of the precious metals mining industry. There is a deep mine in Colorado which was converted from production to this "pick & shovel" operation, but if the price of gold again moves back up enough, the production mining will resume & the desperately laborious recovery of these objects of beauty from nature will again cease. It should be noted, there is little way to predict the future success of yields of specimen gold anywhere at any time. Where some specimen pieces have been found before, it is likely there will be some specimens found in the future, BUT, there is no guarantee what price each unique specimen piece might bring. It is purely a gamble, and a gamble open to "high-grading" by the customer which can remain unknown to the operator of such "hobby mining situations".