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To: DRBES who wrote (76818)	10/25/1999 12:51:00 PM
From: Gary Ng	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578294

DRBES, Re: Just who the heck does intEL think that it is...pauL's conceptualization of AMD? As a long time Intel shareholder, I am disappointed to say that the coppermine launch really remind me of AMD style which I don't expect from Intel. I trust PB's word and would incline to think that it is a chipset issue very much like Athlon with no MB. Gary

To: DRBES who wrote (76818)	10/25/1999 1:00:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578294

Drbes, Re: "Intels coppermine launch" Well I must say its a bit of a disaster so far. The coppermine itself seems like a super chip when one considers its small die size. The benchmarks look pretty competitive to me - maybe just a tad ahead on integer apps and a tad behind in fp apps when compared clk to clk. Clearly the initial volume rush will be systems up to 700Mhz with the Bx chipsets. As far as the scalability issue - Intel failed to offer a 750 with a 100Mhz bus and this leads me to bleieve that a coppermine 800 is unlikely this year. The 667/733's are nowhere to be seen and are most unlikely to ship with the 820 if and when it is fixed in a few weeks/months. I would hope that AMD can yield 750/800s with its 0.18 micron process - whenever these parts are released later this quarter. I am more interested in this from a scaling aspect than revenue aspects. There has been much speculation that AMD's 0.18 will not offer much improvement over its hybrid 0.25 process. regards, Kash